What do you think of our current President?

Hunter368 · 08-02-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ

Ya know we have many great Aussies as members on this site but Aussie1001, I'm convinced that your family gene pool is made up of crossbred convicts mixed in with some larger Marsupial elements. I suggest if you're going to post on this site please know what the f#ck you're talking about. I could accept differences of opinions and even vast criticism of the US, but what you just spouted off is somewhere between retardation and imbecile!

As Dan would say "he is a naive 15 old kid who is not even close to experiencing ball drop"........so STFU!

This is the same kid who was trying to tell me on a different thread how Germany was very very close to winning BoB, if Germany would of kept going for another month she would of won.

I could not even bother explaining it to him....I just told him to go read the threads which covered it in depth.

He has allot to learn about WW2 and life in general b/c he has no freaking idea what he is talking about.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-02-2007, 03:01 PM

If this is what they are teaching in school now, god help us all...

Hunter368 · 08-02-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet

If this is what they are teaching in school now, god help us all...

I doubt that is it........but like the saying goes "a little bit of knowledge can be dangerous".

The kid has bits and pieces of information only..... but still has HUGE opinions on the matter when he is not even close to being fully informed.

BIG mistake

renrich · 08-02-2007, 05:02 PM

Aussie1001, Looks like you plowed yourself up a bunch of snakes. Along with all the other replies, I would like you to consider this: In all the wars in the 20th and 21st century that the US has been involved in, with all the blood and bone and treasure we have expended, can you tell me how we have benefited? How much territory have we gained, how much treasure have we acquired, how much power have we accumulated? And before you accuse us of being trigger happy, become familiar with the demographics and homicide statistics of this country. You will see the number of around 40000 homicides yearly. How many of those are suicides? Do you know the demographics of the homicides? Until you know all those answers it might be wise to keep your own council.

ccheese · 08-02-2007, 05:29 PM

Other than my short post about "Dubya" I have purposly avoided this thread, altho I have been following it. I hope the hostilities have ceased. I would like to comment about one item, and hope our friends overseas take note.

That item is about the right to bear arms. I have taken this a bit further.
I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Why .. you ask ? Well,
my wife and I belong to a number of fraternal organizations and we go to
a lot of their meetings, often in different cities. With the exception of
Sunday meetings, all are in the evening, and usually get out about 11:00pm.

In Richmond, Va and Roanoke, Va in particular, it seems they built their
Civic Centers in the seedyest parts of town. So here we are, at 11 pm
walking down a street..... she in an evening gown and I in a tuxedo. Are
we ripe for plucking or what ? We have had a few of our members, who
are as old or older than I, who have been robbed and terribly beaten. So,
in my right side pocket is a trusty .380 auto, loaded with "shock rounds".

I will kill anyone who attempts to do either me or Edna Mae bodily harm.
In Virginia if you shoot a man and only injure him, you will probably be
sued for maiming.

Charles

renrich · 08-02-2007, 05:51 PM

Right on, Cheese!

mkloby · 08-02-2007, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ccheese

Other than my short post about "Dubya" I have purposly avoided this thread, altho I have been following it. I hope the hostilities have ceased. I would like to comment about one item, and hope our friends overseas take note.

That item is about the right to bear arms. I have taken this a bit further.
I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. Why .. you ask ? Well,
my wife and I belong to a number of fraternal organizations and we go to
a lot of their meetings, often in different cities. With the exception of
Sunday meetings, all are in the evening, and usually get out about 11:00pm.

In Richmond, Va and Roanoke, Va in particular, it seems they built their
Civic Centers in the seedyest parts of town. So here we are, at 11 pm
walking down a street..... she in an evening gown and I in a tuxedo. Are
we ripe for plucking or what ? We have had a few of our members, who
are as old or older than I, who have been robbed and terribly beaten. So,
in my right side pocket is a trusty .380 auto, loaded with "shock rounds".

I will kill anyone who attempts to do either me or Edna Mae bodily harm.
In Virginia if you shoot a man and only injure him, you will probably be
sued for maiming.

Charles

I applied for my concealed permit in VA, but I got speedily transferred out of there to P'cola before it got processed. Darn!

Njaco · 08-02-2007, 07:18 PM

I only have one thing and that is if Aussie is as young as he appears and is a product of the schools or whatever then maybe we can take up the mantle and teach him properly.

Opinions are like a**holes, everybody's got one. And that is the truth.
But knowledge you take your grave.

Listen, learn and then speak. You may not be right (as I often am

) but if you listen then you can make an informed opinion within a healthy debate. Read what the members have said here, check your history and we'll listen then.

Aussie1001 · 08-05-2007, 06:35 PM

:
i eat my words
sorry

drgondog · 08-05-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Aussie1001

:
i eat my words
sorry

That took courage - congratulations

FLYBOYJ · 08-05-2007, 09:20 PM

Agree!

Njaco · 08-05-2007, 10:38 PM

welcome back Aussie!

Emac44 · 08-06-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Aussie1001

The problem i have with "self defense" is when that crosses with gung ho and trigger happy.
It is my belief that America is a trigger happy place. Dont take this personally but your country is a bit of a sticky beak when it comes to other countries, for instance you have only had 2 decades in the past centuary that i can think of off hand in which you have not had a war however you are forgiven for WW2 and WW1 .
Vietnam- what the hell was that all about please tell me ? give me a good reason why it should have been invaded.

Iraq- Desert storm what the hell was that all about.

Korea- Wth

*Note i do not wish to offend any persons who were involved in any of these conflicts and the questions are purly philosophical.

What is this think with modern day korea. You yanks seem to be happy to have nukes but no-one else can, is that it?
*I do not wish to start a war in the forum so keep it cool i am not attacking you i just wish my questions to be answered

Now Aussie you just got belted by a few Americans. Now hold onto your breached because you are about to get belted by a fellow countryman. As for the Americans being in Korea and Vietnam. During and prior to that period the British Commonwealth which included Australia was fighting in Malaya Singapore and Borneo. Whom were we fighting except for Borneo? The Communists in those countries. I suggest you pay a visit to the War Memorial in Canberra and see the section dealing with the Malayan Conflict. We had also stuck our noses in Borneo with a border dispute between Malaysia and Indonesia and even today we have SAS Troopers rotating into the Sultanate of Brunei. We also train the Indonesian Military Philippine Military Thai Military and Singaporean Military all of which we as a nation stick our nose into some one elses country. We have peace keepers in the Solomons and other areas including East Timor. We are also involved in Iraq and Afghanistan if you had forgotten. And we were also involved in Vietnam and Korea just to remind you of that.

Now as for World War 1 and 2 we as a nation stuck our hand up to say yes we would get involved in 2 wars in bloody Europe. Just to please England the the rest of the Commonwealth. As for volunteering to fight 2 World Wars the Australian Governments of the day plus Australians were not that back ward in coming forward in going to fight 2 World Wars that were essentially a squabble between European Countries. If you consider the YANKS as being gun happy so are we Aussie.

Now you want a reason about Vietnam. it was virtually the same reason Australia was involved in Malayan Campaign and later Vietnam. It was called the Domino Policy. It was to stop the spread of Communism in Asia and Australia was very much involved in stopping this and aiding not only Great Britain but the US. If you had a clue about what Sir Robert Menzies was about you would have known his policies at the time. Sir Robert Menzies Aussie was the Prime Minister of Australia. And subsquent Australian Prime Ministers up until Gough Whitlam was elected into power in 1972 that Australia had adopted the Domino Policy in Australian Politics. I suggest before you bleat again at the YANKS. You had better remember our history in Australia in the last 50 to 100 years. And I for one am not disparging those Aussies who served this country in War time or Peace Time. But before you fire salvos at the Yanks again you had better start reading our history mate. I can assure you when I read your post I was unhappy about it. I found your post somewhat naive and condescending in attitude and you had definitely got that attitude from Anti US bullshit from some where. remember Aussie there are other Australians on this site who have served or who had family members who had served with our mates the Americans and I found your post insulting to our Allies. And before you mention Australia being involved in Iraq and Afghanistan because of Prime Minister John Howard. I will also remind you Australia was also involved in Gulf War 1 under Labour Prime Ministers Bob Hawke and later Prime Minister Paul Keating and Australian Military was involved in the Exclusion Zones in the Persian Gulf until 1995 when Prime Minister John Howard was elected into power. we were also involved in Somalia Rwanda and stuck our noses into other hot spots in the Middle East and have done for over 50 years.

And as for Nuclear Power and weapons if you had not read recently our Govenrment is quiet happy to sell uranium to not only the US but to India and Pakistan for Nuclear Power. Which spent fuel rods can be converted for Military usage. Next time Aussie think before you fire a salvo mate

Ok you apologised Aussie. But you just got your first lesson about Australian Politics and War from a fellow Australian and I am sorry that I had not seen this post from Aussie 1001 before as it would have been better that a fellow Australian had taken Aussie 1001 into confidence and given him a well deserved boot in the bum

ccheese · 08-06-2007, 10:11 AM

Amen to that !

Charles

Marcel · 08-06-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by syscom3

The way the new EU constitution is being rammed down the throats of the people(s) of Europe, it's being done by unaccountable judges, beaurocrats and brigands....

I'd say Europe is still being ruled by elites.

Hmmm, I would say the EU is ruled by politicians. They are not elite, at least in my country they are not. Most of them, even our prime minister, are people from the middle class, like most of us. What happened is that they "invent" a constitution, which we can prevent by voting against it, like it should be in real democraties. We in Holland did that last time, remember?

It's what politicians do, they create rules, a job they are paid to do, which you can correct by your vote, which is what democraty is all about.