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08-16-2007, 07:47 PM
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Throwin my 2 cents:
I like the idea of a contract between citizens and government (where have I heard that before) but there is a problem when the 'rogue' ones are too many and setting policy for the status quo. I agree that politicians should have things more in line with the general public. As it is, all the percs and bennies have created an elite class that perpetuates itself to the point of dulling our senses.
Case in point is the court ruling the past year or so regarding emminent domain. The government has the authority to take property it deems it needs for any kind of project they dream up. I don't know where the court's heads were but to me, this goes against every thing the constitution guaranteed. Now in my backyard, a town is trying to take out a whole neiborhood so they can build an exclusive, new marina.
We can debate the main civil liberties all we want (like gun ownership and free speech) but its these little ones that are being abused until we won't recognize that the serious ones are being attacked.
As far as what single civil liberty would I fight for? The right to vote. Without it I would not have a say in the who supposedly represents me in government.
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08-16-2007, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Soundbreaker Welch?  What we need over our cities and factories is some kind of ray shield, some sort of laser cover or something agains't bombs. | ..yeah, like the Martians had in the original 'War of the Worlds'. Could also double as a 'cone of silence'. Good thinking Max! | |
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08-16-2007, 11:18 PM
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08-17-2007, 04:38 AM
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What is real and what isn't?
However I think Grameme was using a good dose of sarcasm. 
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08-17-2007, 04:53 AM
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yeah, like the Martians had in the original 'War of the Worlds'.
That's what gave me the idea!
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Njaco, I also thought it pretty strange that the Gubament could bulldoze your home down, even if you don't owe money on it, for building what they want!
It sure doesn't sound very much like a people goverment.
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08-17-2007, 05:35 AM
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We are discussing presidents here not philosiphy 
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08-17-2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Aussie1001 Heinz i am not going to dignify that with a reply
We are discussing presidents here not philosiphy
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Yes but think of this way, politicians and council's put so much spin on things that could be justified. 
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08-17-2007, 07:43 AM
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By the way our american friends i have heard that in America it is not worth trying to run for president unless you have over 1 million is this true ?
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08-17-2007, 08:31 AM
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08-17-2007, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ToughOmbre Need a lot more $$$ than a million. 50 million may do it, probably more
TO | And there was one American member here saying Europe was controled by the elite 
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08-17-2007, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Aussie1001 Think realisticially |
Aussie they were not being serious. They were joking around.
Come on now your smarter than that...
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08-17-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel And there was one American member here saying Europe was controled by the elite | You are. Accept it.
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08-17-2007, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcel And there was one American member here saying Europe was controled by the elite | I did - but in the context of the firearms debate and the dread the monarchy (of ANY country) had for peasants armed with long range weapons... in the 16 thru 19th centuries - which is the huge contrast between us.
I do not back down from the comment that Royalty was not thrilled with the notion of a peasant that could drill one's royal family members (or private parts) from afar for grievances, real or imagined (mostly real)... Ditto Japanese.
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08-17-2007, 07:00 PM
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lol
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08-17-2007, 07:03 PM
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In australia we have parties there are 2 main parties they are the Liberals (white coller workers) The labour (white coller workers).
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