PoliticsDiscuss What does she actually think? Does she think? in the Current forums; Condoleza Rice in a an address about the security of the United States 5 years after Sept 11, 2001 had ...
There hasnt been a terror attack on the US since 2001. The FBI has done a good job busting up some terror cells in the US and we do have them on the run.
And I seriously doubt there will even be another successfull hijacking of a jetliner anywhere in the world. Every knows it might be the last flight they will ever fly and would fight back.
Libya has given up its WMD designs. At the minimum with Iraq, theyre no longer in the bomb making business. N Korea has painted itself into a corner. Same with Iran.
Yes, were safer than we were 5 years ago.
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Libya is not out of the picture just yet nor Tunisia.
we are safer ? not real sure about that, I keep expecting for us to get hit internally which would not be hard to do, trains, any type of transit system, electrical, yes you could easily smoke a place if you thought the scenario through well enough, but are these bozos capable ?
There hasnt been a terror attack on the US since 2001. The FBI has done a good job busting up some terror cells in the US and we do have them on the run.
And I seriously doubt there will even be another successfull hijacking of a jetliner anywhere in the world. Every knows it might be the last flight they will ever fly and would fight back.
Libya has given up its WMD designs. At the minimum with Iraq, theyre no longer in the bomb making business. N Korea has painted itself into a corner. Same with Iran.
Yes, were safer than we were 5 years ago.
Not sure if agree there will never be another plane jacked ever......but I know this when I have flown outside Canada since 9/11 I watchand listien to everyone very closely. I watch everyone of them like they are a terrorist.
I know this also if a plane were jacked when I was on it and they took control of the plane......I would sooner go down fighting them on the plane then being crashed into a building. If I (and other pass. on the plane) could stop one plane from doing that even if I died doing it I would do it in a sec.
I will not be lead to my death like some bloodly cow going to slaughter.
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Not sure if agree there will never be another plane jacked ever......but I know this when I have flown outside Canada since 9/11 I watchand listien to everyone very closely. I watch everyone of them like they are a terrorist.
I know this also if a plane were jacked when I was on it and they took control of the plane......I would sooner go down fighting them on the plane then being crashed into a building. If I (and other pass. on the plane) could stop one plane from doing that even if I died doing it I would do it in a sec.
I will not be lead to my death like some bloodly cow going to slaughter.
This is why there probably will not be another successful commercial airplane hijack. Every passenger plane is full of sky marshalls.
Are we safer? Yes. Terrorist must work harder to accomplish less than they did before 9/11. This make us safer. This does not mean we are safe or that terrorism will not occur. The freeworld is still vunerable to things like suicide bombings in malls, office buildings, etc. and, as the terrorist find it too hard to attack high value targets like 9/11, they will move to the lower, less protected targets. So I expect a change in the terrorist tactics.
Many people are also stupid Whilst the world is probably safer than it was 5 years ago. It is a stupid sentence that much should be clear.
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so if we are safer would you want to fly out of Amman, Jordan or Istanbul ? just a couple that are pretty creepy still today. we may not have anaother serious sky-jack into a building scenario but placing a bomb on board is not a problem for any typoe of ground maint. crews in these countries or others actually
so if battle Condi vs Hillary whom will win ? ah let the wit fly before our eyesr
"Condoleza Rice in a an address about the security of the United States 5 years after Sept 11, 2001 had this to say about how safe the US is.
"I think it is clear that we are safe - safer - but not really yet safe."
Seriosly does she realize how that makes her look let alone our government when she says stupid things like this? "
DerAdlerIstGelandet, it's critical that we support our leaders in this war against Islamofacists. I've noticed that you serve in the Army. Have you ever made a mistake in talking to your superiors? Have you ever stammered in a public speech. Cut her a little slack, and why is it you criticize her? Why don't you point out the utter hopelessness of Hillary, Nancy Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, obama, McCain, etc.?
And yes I do support Bushfor the war effort, but don't agree with his immigration policy, hence my signature.
DerAdlerIstGelandet, it's critical that we support our leaders in this war against Islamofacists. I've noticed that you serve in the Army. Have you ever made a mistake in talking to your superiors? Have you ever stammered in a public speech. Cut her a little slack, and why is it you criticize her? Why don't you point out the utter hopelessness of Hillary, Nancy Pelosi, Kerry, Kennedy, obama, McCain, etc.?
And yes I do support Bushfor the war effort, but don't agree with his immigration policy, hence my signature.
Harvard I do support our leaders in a time of war. I served in the war. I do support our government but that does not mean I have to agree with everything that they ever say.
In serving for this country I dont have to give anyone slack that I dont want to and certainly not someone that I dont agree with or think is doing a very good job in her position.
I think Rice is a complete moran and will say it again.
As for the other people in government such as Hillary and Kerry, I do talk about how I dont like them. If you would read through the forum you would now that.
Does the pic below look like someone who does not support this government in a time of war because it sure as hell looks like I am supporting in the biggest way possible by putting my life on the line for it. (Im the one on the far right)
By putting my life on the line for my government I have every right to critisize it when I dont agree with it.
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Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes:
fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
"wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2"
"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
Also I support this governments decision to go to war and supported it from the beginning. I dont support how it was not properly managed. If Rumsfeld actually would listen to his commanders on the ground we might not be in the situation that we are in today.
True we could not plan for the insurgancy that we are facing today but Iraq might not be on the verge of a Civil War.
Rumsfeld actually banned his top Generals from planning Phase IV which would have been the post Saddam Iraq. He fired several Generals because they told him that he needed to plan for it. Generals are finally speaking out against him now that they are retiring.
He is a polotician and does not know how to run and fight a war. Look at Vietnam and what polotics did for it...
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Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes:
fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"
"wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2"
"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
I think Rice is doing a reasonable job in a position where you have to tip toe between unreasonable people. Judging people by their language is not reliable nor wise.
As for Rumsfeld, the jury is sill out on him in my mind. I am sure that he is not particularly popular with the military, especially the Army, because of his redesign for a lighter, flexible quick-response military. I think this has cause a lot of military animosity. However, I do believe this is the way to go and what he has done will define the modern military. As for Iraq, the debate was always between sending in a large amount of troops a the risk of alienating the Iraqis completely or using as few as possible to allow Iraqis quick responsibility. It appears now that the former would have been the wise route. I think many mistakes have been made, but historically, this is not unsual. War is a study on adaptability, i.e., mistakes with learning process. Also, historically this has not been a costly, in terms of life except maybe for the Iraqis, regime change. Nor has it been a long time into the process. History has shown it takes many years to transform a society. I do think that the Bush team greatly underestimated (often based on information from people that would gain from a Sadam overthrow) the forces in effect in Iraq at the time of the incursion.
No matter what, don't believe for a minute that our lifestyle (the civilized world) is not a stake in Iraq and the middle east. If we get out, I can pretty well garantee that we will be back in the near future. Unless, of course we decide to develop energy independence (which will take a long time).
Whilst the world is probably safer than it was 5 years ago. It is a stupid sentence that much should be clear.
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