Will Canada ever have a Army the world can respect again?

102first_hussars · 10-20-2005, 07:32 PM

Yeah and I heard that the dumbest Canadian is smarter than the smartest American.

102first_hussars · 10-20-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer

I don't know where you're getting the idea that our navy is among the world's best. The surface ships aren't junk, but we're puny with no real offensive capability. Defence would be a challenge too with the small numbers.

FYI, it hasn't been called the RCN since 1968.

Im getting my info from the official Government defence sight maybe you should check it out

http://www.navy.forces.gc.ca/mspa_fl...eet_home_e.asp

Nonskimmer · 10-20-2005, 08:00 PM

I've seen it. So what? "Ton for ton" we're still incredibly small with hardly any teeth. We're not as capable as just any navy in the world, unlike the site claims. How can we be?

By the way, HMCS Huron should have been stricken from that list of the Iroquois class. She was decommissioned back in March.

102first_hussars · 10-20-2005, 08:32 PM

Yeah well aside from aircraft carriers we are just as capable as the royal navy,

And ill have you know that I my self am in the military, I know about the Navy's deployment and offensive capabilities.
http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/144.html

plan_D · 10-20-2005, 08:45 PM

The Canadian Navy isn't on par with the Royal Navy, even if the Royal Navy lacked it's aircraft carriers. But it does have aircraft carriers and they're the primary offensive weapons of any navy ...which makes the Royal Navy far ahead of the Canadian Navy - which foolishly has none.

Nonskimmer · 10-20-2005, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars

And ill have you know that I my self am in the military, I know about the Navy's deployment and offensive capabilities.

Y'do huh? Why don't you tell us about it?

plan_D · 10-20-2005, 09:22 PM

I have to correct my last post, the Canadian Navy is amazing 'cos NS is in it. Wait does that make it amazing ...or even worse...I can't remember.

102first_hussars · 10-20-2005, 09:23 PM

Im starting to think your just a typical mark-ass brit,

Learn about the Halifax Class ships and how they were developed as a result of your brithish ships "foolishly" getting sunk in the Falklands.
and that USN ship that got hit by an Iraqi exocet missile in the late 80's.

as a result of those, the canadian navy has developed new state of the Art navigation, communication, Radar, Sonar and countermeasures that your boys can only dream of.

And if that doesnt convince you how about this

The Canadian Navy has been on over 75 missions in the last 40 years and not one of our ships have been attacked sunck breathed on wrong, or even been **** on by a F*cking seagle so you can take that british arrogance and shove it straight up

lesofprimus · 10-20-2005, 09:24 PM

Yea, im sure the many former and presently serving Navy men from North America would love to hear it from such a well informed Meatball from Edmonton...

The same one who said the Canadian Navy is on par with the Royal Navy... The same one who referred to the Navy as the RCN...

U sure like puttin ur foot in ur mouth... This must be ur first time in a public message board...

Some advice??? Spend alittle time in the archives, root around in some of the older posts... Read some of the old battles and attitude adjustments... Waste alittle time running around in the Off Topic area, and learn some of the personalities here...

Do ur homework... If u'r who u say u are, u should have already done this. like I did when I joined up, and like every other former and current servicemember here has done....

Its called intelligence, and without good intel, ur screwed.... I know this for a fact... U SHOULD!!!... Erich does... So does Evan and NonSkim , and DerAdler and FBJ...

Im usually not friendly to new comers here, so this little "speech" here is nothing special, and I am a moronic American anyways, so its not like it matters...

BUT...

Spend some time reading old posts, learn the members and read some great info on WW2 aircraft... There have been many many people that have come through here, and just didnt fit in... They arent here anymore, so u get my drift????

U'll either jump aboard and become one of the crew, like syscom did, or u can go out with a whimper and a laugh behind ur back....

Either way, ur welcome to do what u want, when u want to... But this is the first and last time ull see me giving u advice, so please utilize it wisely...

And always remember, HAVE FUN DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lesofprimus · 10-20-2005, 09:30 PM

And one more thing...

Insulting the British is the worst possible way to be totally miserable here next to pissing me off, so I'd advise u to keep ur Country hating, Anti-Brit and American politics out of the regular forums....

plan_D · 10-20-2005, 09:32 PM

Of course, because the Royal Navy hasn't upgraded it's ships since 20 years ago. And get this straight, the Canadian Navy hasn't been in the direct action that the Royal Navy had to be in during the Falklands War.

How can you even compare the Royal Navy actions at the Falklands to ANYTHING the Canadian Navy has done in the past 40 years.

And you don't think not having aircraft carriers is foolish for a navy that CLAIMS to be one of the best? Than you're dumber than I thought. The Aircraft Carrier is 'the' offensive weapon ...the Royal Navy has them, the Canadian Navy doesn't ...

And notice how the Canadian Navy had to learn from BRITISH experience ... and he wonder's why we're arrogant.

plan_D · 10-20-2005, 09:36 PM

...and just look at the board...the majority 'players' are American and British ...we've been through the Limey vs. Yankee crap before and now it's just a joke. Then Canucks joined and they were assaulted too ...the two main Canucks are NS and Maestro ...we get along fine with them. You're anti-British and anti-American crap makes me laugh more than it annoys me.

And if you ever think I'm anti-Canadian ...just find the thread I dedicated to your country in WW2 General.

102first_hussars · 10-20-2005, 09:41 PM

"And notice how the Canadian Navy had to learn from BRITISH experience ... and he wonder's why we're arrogant. "

Well it seems that throughout history everybody is having to learn from alot of the "big Players Mistakes".

plan_D · 10-20-2005, 09:50 PM

...I'm sorry, of course ...because Britain made mistakes throughout it's history. Must have been one lucky country to own one third of the world ...including Canada!

And you think that Great Britain didn't learn from it's own mistakes during the Falklands? Do you honestly sit there and think the Royal Navy has the exact same technology it had in 1982?

See, because I have the utmost respect for Canada ...I will avoid slamming every thing Canada might have ever done wrong because that's only done in two circumstances;

1) You do it because you're ignorant and cannot uphold your own defence.

2) There's a proper discussion about the pros and cons of either side.

Concerning you, it's certainly not number two. So, I assume your attacks on Great Britain are due to your own ignorance. I hope I'm not wrong in assuming that you know Great Britain won the Falklands war ...

Nonskimmer · 10-20-2005, 10:08 PM

Plan_D is right, Huss. The Royal Navy was the mold for the Royal Canadian Navy, and the present day Canadian Navy still practices many British traditions even now.

We haven't been in any sort of direct action since the Korean War. We haven't had an aircraft carrier since 1970, and all three of the ones we ever had were former British carriers from WWII, albeit the last one was updated and actually brand new. It never actually served in any navy but ours. Not to mention the four "new" former British diesel submarines we presently have.
These days we can barely even manage to keep twelve frigates running at the same time, so how can you possibly think that we're even remotely as capable as the RN, USN, French Navy...? We don't even carry cruise missiles.