Xenophobia attacks in South Africa

[eddie_brunette]

Hi Kruska

I'm actually looking at opportunities in Germany at the moment , but I think a person must be open minded and grasp any opportunity that guarantees safety for your loved ones.

Getting homesick? I doubt it, as we Caucasians are nothing more than refugees in Africa

[Kruska]

Hello eddie brunette,

Yes, you are certainly correct, the priority would be to find a job first and get out of this mess. So I will keep my thumbs crossed for you, if there is anything I could help with please let me know.

Based on my experience, I wouldn’t be surprised if at the end you will still find a good place to stay in Australia or Canada or probably even the US.

BTW, how good is your German?

Regards
Kruska

[eddie_brunette]

Use to have German as a 3rd language in 1988, and forgot most of it, but quite willing to learn. If you understand Afrikaans, then it is not so difficult to pick up words. Our first choice is to relocate to Europe, then second Australia.

We will be in Germany for Wacken 2008 in August, cant WAIT

[Henk]

Originally Posted by Kruska

Hello Henk,

Nope, they did not kill – for tribal reasons - each other inside South Africa during Apartheid (except within their own families) – without the western public taking notice of this, because the minority police and Armed Forces controlled / restricted them from pursuing their tribal customs. From what I recall a minority government in Pretoria forced a majority to use and learn Afrikaans instead of their own 35 native languages. So the majority demonstrated – started to get heated up - and then some got shot by the minority police forces.

Unfortunately Pretoria never managed to neutralize or to reform its Apartheid policy and at the same time found itself being used for international power games by the West (Foremost the UK and the US) and the East (Russia with its allies, foremost Cuba).
After they all managed (including a good share of the own minorities financial interests groups) to totally screw up this country, those governments forgot about her and now shake their heads and forward regrets upon these terrible and shocking occurrences. – Which off course are all the consequences due to the former Apartheid rule.
But luckily they are free to vote now, drink as much alcohol as they like and can thrive economically on the basis of their 35 languages.

I am not a racist, I have not read many books about countries such as Rhodesia and South Africa, but I have been there.


Regards
Kruska

Hi Kruska

Are you being sarcastic or did you smoke something

eddie I am happy for you and hope everything will work out for you.

[eddie_brunette]

Tx Henk, we have to be prepared, this really is not happy times here. Luckily I'm not a soccer fan, but if any of you were thinking of coming here for the 2010WC please be careful, think twice and watch it from home.

[Kruska]

Originally Posted by Henk

Hi Kruska

Are you being sarcastic or did you smoke something

eddie I am happy for you and hope everything will work out for you.

Hello Henk,

well as I mentioned I have been to Rhodesia, Zimbabwe, SWA, Namibia and South Africa. I have met, spoken and listen to Ministers and Presidents of two of these countries after "Liberation".

So how could one express himself after that, by sarcasm or by just turning your back and walking away?

Oh well, yeah smoking "something" probably could help too

Regards
Kruska

[Henk]

Originally Posted by Kruska

Hello Henk,

well as I mentioned I have been to Rhodesia, Zimbabwe, SWA, Namibia and South Africa. I have met, spoken and listen to Ministers and Presidents of two of these countries after "Liberation".

So how could one express himself after that, by sarcasm or by just turning your back and walking away?

Oh well, yeah smoking "something" probably could help too

Regards
Kruska

What exactly are your point of view mate, I do not think you have an objective opinion?

[Kruska]

What would be so difficult to understand about my posts?

Fact IMO is that the population (blacks and whites alike) in former African countries such as nowadays called Namibia, Zimbabwe and South Africa, were far better off under white rule then by what they are presently facing under their black governments.
Blacks in Africa are IMO simply not capable to perform without white assistance or directions; as such a democratic or dictatorial political system based on blacks will never perform in Africa, at least not for the next 100 years.

Angola, Mozambique, Rhodesia and Namibia never had a chance to keep their existence under white rule due to a totally disproportionate population setup and the political Cold War environment in the 70’s & 80’s.

Biggest mistake IMO was South Africa’s neglect to never really support Rhodesia in regards to military and a common political cause, hoping that later the US and Europe would be “nice” to them and also partially due to the old “childish” rivalry between British and Boer ancestry which still persists in your country until today. At the end of the day the white government in Pretoria found itself alone against the world in its Apartheid policy.

South Africa could have easily integrated and financially supported former Rhodesians in order to promote them to resettle in SA. Off course some Rhodesian farmers and business owners might have still stayed in Zimbabwe for some time.

That the western liberal and pacifist (tree huggers etc.) parties took a huge influence in destroying South Africa for the “greater good” can’t be denied. On the other hand, that almost 5 million whites in South Africa never undertook a united effort to force or forward an independent portion of former South Africa (look at Israel) maybe was the greatest neglect. Why? Because IMO they couldn’t face the thought of many of them loosing their valuables and properties and having to start all over again.
And farmers any where in the world are known for their stubbornness when it comes to their livelihood or property.

Now history usually can’t be reverted, the former masters have become the immigrants / none welcomed in their own country and now face sure economical devastation in a country where a government is incapable of ruling and behaves racist like towards whites and disqualifies itself furthermore by encouraging and promoting tribal conflicts.

So when are the whites going to grab their guns and start a liberation movement? (The Israelis called it Hagana (settlers protection forces) = The USA might like and support the idea if the liberation movement could proof some Al Kaidah connections to Pretoria.

So if the latter sounds sarcastic to you, I will leave it up to you to decide.
Regards
Kruska

[eddie_brunette]

Whites cannot stand together in this country

[eddie_brunette]

front page of our local paper today:

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[Kruska]

Originally Posted by eddie_brunette

Whites cannot stand together in this country

Hello eddie_brunette,

Yes, that was and is actually the problem that hindered and hinders any probable solution for the whites.
Anyway, have fun and enjoy your concert in Germany, you happen to have relatives there or what gave you the idea to see the concert?

Regards
Kruska

[eddie_brunette]

Im a metalhead \m/ and probably one the biggest and best metal festivals in the world

Was going in 2004, but had passport problems (only in SA again, waited 8 months: evil: )

and Iron Maiden is the headliner

[Henk]

Originally Posted by Kruska

What would be so difficult to understand about my posts?

Fact IMO is that the population (blacks and whites alike) in former African countries such as nowadays called Namibia, Zimbabwe and South Africa, were far better off under white rule then by what they are presently facing under their black governments.
Blacks in Africa are IMO simply not capable to perform without white assistance or directions; as such a democratic or dictatorial political system based on blacks will never perform in Africa, at least not for the next 100 years.

Angola, Mozambique, Rhodesia and Namibia never had a chance to keep their existence under white rule due to a totally disproportionate population setup and the political Cold War environment in the 70’s & 80’s.

Biggest mistake IMO was South Africa’s neglect to never really support Rhodesia in regards to military and a common political cause, hoping that later the US and Europe would be “nice” to them and also partially due to the old “childish” rivalry between British and Boer ancestry which still persists in your country until today. At the end of the day the white government in Pretoria found itself alone against the world in its Apartheid policy.

South Africa could have easily integrated and financially supported former Rhodesians in order to promote them to resettle in SA. Off course some Rhodesian farmers and business owners might have still stayed in Zimbabwe for some time.

That the western liberal and pacifist (tree huggers etc.) parties took a huge influence in destroying South Africa for the “greater good” can’t be denied. On the other hand, that almost 5 million whites in South Africa never undertook a united effort to force or forward an independent portion of former South Africa (look at Israel) maybe was the greatest neglect. Why? Because IMO they couldn’t face the thought of many of them loosing their valuables and properties and having to start all over again.
And farmers any where in the world are known for their stubbornness when it comes to their livelihood or property.

Now history usually can’t be reverted, the former masters have become the immigrants / none welcomed in their own country and now face sure economical devastation in a country where a government is incapable of ruling and behaves racist like towards whites and disqualifies itself furthermore by encouraging and promoting tribal conflicts.

So when are the whites going to grab their guns and start a liberation movement? (The Israelis called it Hagana (settlers protection forces) = The USA might like and support the idea if the liberation movement could proof some Al Kaidah connections to Pretoria.

So if the latter sounds sarcastic to you, I will leave it up to you to decide.
Regards
Kruska

Kruska

I did not understand your post at first, but I see where you stand now. I agree with your post and also with eddie that the whites in SA just mostly think of them selfs and not about the rest.

The thing is I love my country, my family fought in the Boer war and was involved in the Great Trek as well. So I do not want to leave it in the hands of the blacks.

The ANC is already split and the people already think Mbeki must step down.

Botswana is the best around us. They learned and thought for once and look where they are today.

What kind of work do you do Kruska if I may ask?

[eddie_brunette]

Originally Posted by Henk

Kruska

I did not understand your post at first, but I see where you stand now. I agree with your post and also with eddie that the whites in SA just mostly think of them selfs and not about the rest.

The thing is I love my country, my family fought in the Boer war and was involved in the Great Trek as well. So I do not want to leave it in the hands of the blacks.

The ANC is already split and the people already think Mbeki must step down.

Botswana is the best around us. They learned and thought for once and look where they are today.

What kind of work do you do Kruska if I may ask?

Henk, he has a very valid point of view and it is very interesting to read what he has said, laat jou nê.

edd

[freebird]

Originally Posted by Haztoys

So now what are they mad about ...I was thinking they just burned white farms ...??? ..Those do not look like white farms ...

Keep safe ...Sorry to see whats going on ...The US news never said jack...

Tribalism again I'm afraid.... The scourge of Africa

Originally Posted by Njaco

Eddie and Henk, I hope you guys are away from all that!

Hey don't forget that Gnomey is down there as well!


Eddie, your headline from the paper is huge, it blows the post about 2 feet wide!