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  • Frecce Tricolori

    6 11.32%
  • Red Arrows

    18 33.96%
  • Thunderbirds

    8 15.09%
  • Blue Angels

    16 30.19%
  • Russian Knights

    5 9.43%
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Best Aerobatic Team?

Polls Discuss Best Aerobatic Team? in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by alexyflemming I Sent VIDEOS (TO WATCH), Pictures (TO LOOK). I ALSO EXPECT VIDEOS AND PICTURES IN RESPONSE ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexyflemming View Post
    I Sent VIDEOS (TO WATCH), Pictures (TO LOOK).
    I ALSO EXPECT VIDEOS AND PICTURES IN RESPONSE NATURALLY.

    NO NEED TO READ SOMETHING. SEND VIDEO. ALL I WANT IS THAT.
    VIDEOS DON'T MEAN CRAP!!! AGAIN HAVE YOU EVER FLOWN AN AIRCRAFT IN AN AIRSHOW TO SUPPORT YOUR ARGUMENT????


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    Blue Angles...Response.

    you keep posting crap about discrediting the Blue Angles
    Sorry for that. I should not write the bad clothes of others (BTW, I did NOT post any UNREAL thing. The post I sent was from the official team informators of the Blue Angles). Anyway, what I did was wrong.

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    Photo Changed

    FlyBoyJ;

    You changed the photo I uploaded. If you think your definition was better than SHOULD NOT WE SEE the TWO DEFINITIONS TOGETHER SO THAT THE OTHERS DECIDE WHICH ONE IS BETTER?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexyflemming View Post
    Sorry for that. I should not write the bad clothes of others (BTW, I did NOT post any UNREAL thing. The post I sent was from the official team informators of the Blue Angles). Anyway, what I did was wrong.
    Well that's good....

    Now with that said...

    You could look at videos all day and if you don't know what you're looking at and don't understand what is going on in the formation you have no basis to judge the ability of a demo team.

    Turkish Stars are a good team but over all I find them no better or worse than other teams. There are many things they can do that other teams cant - that are many things other teams can do that the Turkish Stars can't.

    Until you could really understand what is happening from the ground all you're looking at is a pretty formation of aircraft!!!!
    Last edited by FLYBOYJ; 08-13-2009 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexyflemming View Post
    FlyBoyJ;

    You changed the photo I uploaded. If you think your definition was better than SHOULD NOT WE SEE the TWO DEFINITIONS TOGETHER SO THAT THE OTHERS DECIDE WHICH ONE IS BETTER?
    And now that I got your attention - that photo shows 2 F-18s at 125 knots - can an F-5 do that?!?!?!?

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    Could you please put the two photos together. BOTH ARE PERFECT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexyflemming View Post
    Could you please put the two photos together. BOTH ARE PERFECT!
    I will when you answer my question

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    Answer:
    I did NOT fly with F-16 or F-5. I have friends that experienced that! I flied with a jet, not as a pilot.

    By the way: Thank you for your picture: I did NOT see that ever before.

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    Here's a pretty good shot. Looks pretty precise.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Best Aerobatic Team?-blueangels1.jpg  

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexyflemming View Post
    Answer:
    I did NOT fly with F-16 or F-5. I have friends that experienced that! I flied with a jet, not as a pilot.

    By the way: Thank you for your picture: I did NOT see that ever before.
    Thank you. Now here's another


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    The videos of Blue Angles that I am sent was from a cockpit video.

    Is there a 9-10 minutes video of Blue Angles or Thunderbirds that is from the ground? I googled, but not found.
    Last edited by alexyflemming; 08-13-2009 at 03:17 PM. Reason: Pressing ENTER accidentally.

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    Is it easier or more difficult to be that precise with today's aircraft vs. 50 year ago with piston powered planes?

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    Thank you. Now here's another
    .

    The photo you sent last as the definition of Mirror Images is also very nice(An F-18 are placing the plane between the back wings of the definition of mirror image ): IT WOULD BE SUPER IF THAT PHOTOS CAN ENLARGE AS MUCH AS THE ONE I SENT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Messy1 View Post
    Is it easier or more difficult to be that precise with today's aircraft vs. 50 year ago with piston powered planes?
    I've flown formation in jets (L29, 39) and GA recips. I had an easier time in the recips. Jets with long spool up times seem to be more difficult and I've been told this by other pilots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexyflemming View Post
    pbfoot:
    I wondered who are Snowbirds: I examined and found that:
    Canadian Snowbirds:
    Canadair CL-41 Tutor : (never exceed speed: 763 km/h).

    I already seperated the Aerobatic Teams in two main groups:
    HORSES: Supersonic ones.
    DONKEYS: Not supersonic ones.

    Snowbirds even cannot make Turkish Primary School pupils (accostomed to HIGH SPEED ADRENALIN SHOWS) enjoy with them some couple of hours. They get bored immediately. Surely!

    VIDEOS ARE STILL WAITING (for the objectors)!
    Whats funny is the guys who probably decided to have a team in Turkey were trained in Canada and your flying aircraft built in Canada , we gave ours to Botswana soon after you got our 104's

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