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01-27-2007, 04:24 AM
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Country:  | Back to the thread - I agree with Emac and K9, give me an FN FAL / SLR any day. You can shoot through walls with them. Very useful, even if your chances of actually hitting anyone aren't that high, you'll still scare the **** out of them. I never had trouble with stoppages, and could hit out to about 400 yards with my own rifle, no probs. As for bushes, a 7.62 will deviate less than a 5.56, and the rest is academic. How much each one deviates is unimportant - the fact is that with a 7.62 you have a greater chance of hitting him and doing him serios unpleasantness, and that's all there is. And the M-16 I tried was a piece of junk.
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01-27-2007, 06:38 AM
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#152 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Originally Posted by ndicki give me an FN FAL / SLR any day | And Ill take an AK-47, preferably the lighter AKM, for any sort of combat mission other than close in work....
And I wouldnt go so far as to say the M-16 was junk, but the M4A1 SOPMOD is a far superior weapons system... 
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01-27-2007, 08:27 AM
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#153 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I have to agree with Les, give me an AK. I do like the M-4 though as you have shown. I like all the cool **** you can do with it and they were pretty accurate and fun to shoot. Never had a problem with an M-4.
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01-27-2007, 11:09 AM
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01-27-2007, 11:17 AM
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| The 4 X optical sight looks a lot like the one on the SA80. Does anyone know if they are the same? | |
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01-27-2007, 11:19 AM
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Country: | Doesn't look that much like it, does it? Anyway, all these fancy sights do is get in the way when you're snap shooting, by increasing your target acquisition time. I'd sooner have a basic, bog-stock iron sight like on the SLR.
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01-27-2007, 11:23 AM
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#157 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Thats pretty much all I ever used, was the iron sight and was allways pretty damn good with it.
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01-27-2007, 11:35 AM
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#158 | | Minister of Whoopass
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It's got lots of bits to lose or break, I'll give it that.
| Special Operations Operatives dont lose anything, we find things hehe...
There are lots of Missions that are were and are going to be fought in the cover of darkness guys... Iron sights in the dark???  
Anyways, I did like the fit of the SLR, but crawl through the mud with one and then compare it to an AK.... I could break my AK down in under a minute... Cant say that of the SLR...
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01-27-2007, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus  Special Operations Operatives dont lose anything, we find things hehe...
There are lots of Missions that are were and are going to be fought in the cover of darkness guys... Iron sights in the dark???
Anyways, I did like the fit of the SLR, but crawl through the mud with one and then compare it to an AK.... I could break my AK down in under a minute... Cant say that of the SLR... | Ofcourse we did not use iron sights at night. We used NVGs and laser sights at night. From the aircraft I chose not to use a laser though. It was useless to me. I just used NVGs and walked my tracers in.
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01-27-2007, 12:02 PM
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#160 | | Minister of Whoopass
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01-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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#163 | | Master of Ewes
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01-27-2007, 02:22 PM
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Country: | SLRs are good for shooting prone, unlike AKs - the mag is nice and short, and you can stay well down and still put out properly aimed fire. Also, the British SLR, as opposed to the FAL/R1 will accept the 30rd mag off the L4 Bren gun. Which also means that the L4 Bren Gun will take the 20rd mag off the SLR. Sometimes useful when there's a flap on.
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