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10-28-2005, 02:43 AM
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#31 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | try telling the argies it's a bad weapon in SLR form 
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10-28-2005, 03:28 AM
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#32 | | Senior Member
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| 102. FN's weren't cheap, they were expensive due to a larger than normal number of machined parts. Just that I have never heard of them being unreliable, in fact that was a strength. One of the benefits of the FN was the ease of maintanence and field stripping.
Combining the FN with the GPMG was seen as an almost ideal match.
I admit to not understanding your second point so cannot comment on that | 
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10-28-2005, 01:03 PM
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#33 | | He who does not skim
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Country:  | There was nothing particularly wrong with the C1, which was the Canadian version of the FN SLR. The problems that finally did occur were due to the same thing as with everything else defence related here: They got so damn old and abused that they eventually just wore out. I trained with the C1 back in basic, and it was essentially a good rifle. Every bit as reliable as the Belgian or British production versions. Like any old piece of equipment though, it required a fair bit of special attention, as did the C2 light machine gun version, and it was past it's time as the main battle rifle of the Canadian Armed Forces. The C7 was very welcomed by most of the troops, as was the C9 light machine gun (essentially the FN Minmi/M249 SAW). The 7.62mm C6 (FN-MAG 58 ) is still used as the general purpose machine gun of the Forces though, and is still pretty reliable. | |
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10-29-2005, 02:55 AM
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#34 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Anyway thats my opinion, So whats wrong with the Tar-21 nobodys voted for that, or the X-M8 which is basically a space aged M-16 with a larger caliber.
The Mag 58, reminds me of the MG-42 in terms of fire rate, but jesus it overheats just too damn fast.
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10-29-2005, 08:56 AM
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#35 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | I personally would not go with any of those up there. I like the G36. It is much better than the M-16 and the M-4. When I was at our units gunnery the last 2 weeks. We spent the whole time at a German Military Post and got to shoot the G36. It was extremly accurate and just fun to shoot. We also had to qualify on the M-4 Carbine (smaller version of the M-16 with a folding stock) and we installed the red dot sites on them but I was not too impressed with the site. I am sure it is great for close quarter combat but not for long range targes. Ofcourse the real reason we were there was to do our Helicopter Door Gunnery Qualifications. As usual that was a lot of fun and I hummed the tune from Apocolypse Now the whole time I was shooting from my Blackhawk.
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10-29-2005, 08:58 AM
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#36 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by 102first_hussars Anyway thats my opinion, So whats wrong with the Tar-21 nobodys voted for that, or the X-M8 which is basically a space aged M-16 with a larger caliber.
| How can someone vote for the XM-8 when it has not been fielded yet and is probably going to get canceled anyhow and replaced by the Barret 6.8mm?
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10-29-2005, 11:17 AM
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#37 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | Thats what I'd like to know....
Welcome back BTW Adler... I know u had fun.... Dont you just love the smell of burnt powder???
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10-29-2005, 11:23 AM
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#38 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The 2 smells I love the most are burn powder and burning JP8 when my engines are starting up in the morning!
Okay well there are some other smells that I really love more but I wont go into those.....
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10-29-2005, 02:09 PM
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#39 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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#40 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Blueberry Muffins and Deisel Fuel for me
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10-29-2005, 03:02 PM
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#42 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | Petrol and burning rubber...Mmmmm...
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10-29-2005, 04:32 PM
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#43 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Naw Burning Rubber just does not do it for me, now the muffins on the other hand!
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10-29-2005, 05:35 PM
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#44 | | "Shooter"
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10-29-2005, 05:43 PM
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#45 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yeah I am going to smell that tomorrow!
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