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M-16A2 7 14.00%
Ak-47 29 58.00%
Ak-74 2 4.00%
Diemaco C7 (all Steel M-16) 1 2.00%
Type 89 1 2.00%
L85A2 2 4.00%
Austrian Steyr Stg.58 1 2.00%
TAR-21 0 0%
XM8 0 0%
M14 2 4.00%
G-36 5 10.00%
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Old 12-03-2005, 12:17 PM   #91
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For close quarter combat, the MP-5 is damn near unbeatable.... God I love that weapon..
I know zip about modern weaponry Les ( infact the last weapon I fired was a replica Colt single action peacemaker) but according to the figures on Heckler's web site if 50 countries use the MP5's it must indicate that its a good weapon.
I'm suprised Heckler & Koch survived after Royal Ordinance went tits up as normally its the oveseas companies that go to the wall first, but I suppose having such a good product line it had little effect on sales and if its true that the G36 is going to replace the SA80 it serves RO right for giving up the company. Typical British dont know when their breads buttered they recently gave up Smith & Wesson control as well the knobnuts.
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The Germans bought Heckler & Koch back from Royal Ordinance in 2000, didn't they?
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It's my understanding that when the M-16 first came out it used one type of powder that worked fine. When it was ordered the powder was changed to a more powerful ball type powder which left a residue. To counter the residue problem the reciever/bolt/chamber was to be chromed. Macnamara, who knew everything, rejected the chrome because it cost something like $1.62 per rifle and was not needed. Once they were chromed the reliability and jamming problems stopped. My uncle was in nam in 68/69 He said on more than one occasion they used anything at hand to keep their M-16s clean.

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That 'Ball" powder caused such a problem because it was meant for slightly larger calibers. by the time the decision to chrome the rifle 'guts' Macnamara was out of office, It was Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfield that made that stunned decision.
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The Germans bought Heckler & Koch back from Royal Ordinance in 2000, didn't they?
That is my understanding also. I know a friend of mine had a meeting with managment about starting a job and the managment was German. So I believe you are correct.
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You don't know about what you talkthe i have 2 of the bet assault rifle

the fal as steyr 58 never jamming and capable of a accurracy of 3 to
4 inch without scope on 100 m distance

the second the sar galil in .223 for the moment the best assault rifle
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You don't know about what you talkthe i have 2 of the bet assault rifle
I dont know what I am talking about? Im in the US Army and get to play around with these things.
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Hell of a first post. rikdil, I suggest that you do a little reading to understand people's backgrounds before you state that someone doesn't know what they are talking about.
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i think he said that in jest.........
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Don't worry, Eric, he's Belgian ... they can't be blamed for their handicap.

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Sorry, welcome to the forum. Don't worry, I have nothing against Belgium specifically.
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I am sure he meant it in jest, I was just trying to point out what Eric was saying.
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I like the SA80 personally, but the ak47 has been proved as one of the most reliable, popular, powerful and mass produced rifle Ever, well, assault rifle. it is also the most reliable and combat proven of the lot. it deserves to have the title
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Certainly above the SA-80, which is crap.
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they have sorted a lot of the problems with the A2 though.........
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