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03-06-2005, 07:39 PM
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#166 | | Senior Member
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Country: | okay okay, I'm mentioning one of it's weaknesses then
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03-06-2005, 07:41 PM
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#167 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Another smart ass.  Good stuff! |
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03-07-2005, 01:49 PM
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#168 | | Master of Ewes
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i haven't actually voted yet but i'm assuming the hurricane's wining?? and yes i know i can check without voted, i just can't be bothered.........
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03-07-2005, 04:14 PM
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#169 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | Supermarine Spitfire
48% [ 188 ]
Hawker Hurricane
16% [ 65 ]
Bolton-Paul Defiant
1% [ 4 ]
Bristol Beaufighter
1% [ 5 ]
Messerschmitt Bf-109
19% [ 74 ]
Messerschmitt Me-110
3% [ 15 ]
Heinkel He-111
2% [ 11 ]
Dornier Do-17
0% [ 3 ]
Junkers Ju-87 Stuka
2% [ 11 ]
Junkers Ju-88
2% [ 11 ]
Total Votes : 387
Fraid not lanc  Even the Emil is beating it 
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03-07-2005, 05:21 PM
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#170 | | Senior Member
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Country: | more people have voted for the Stuka than the Do-17, why?
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03-07-2005, 06:47 PM
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| I think the spitfire was the best British fighter. It had excellent fire power and manuverability. |
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03-08-2005, 12:22 PM
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#172 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Originally Posted by mosquitoman more people have voted for the Stuka than the Do-17, why? | Probably because its more famous.
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03-08-2005, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BountyHunter15 I think the spitfire was the best British fighter. It had excellent fire power and manuverability. | The Spit Is 8 mgs were spread along the wing, whereas the Hurris were grouped tightly, making the Hurri the more destructive weapon. There were some cannon armed Spits (IB's) trialled around the BoB, but the early marks of Hispano cannon were highly prone to jamming and unpopular with pilots.
While the Spit was more maneuverable than the Hurri, the Hurri was no slouch, and in any case, the 109 had the better of both because it's direct-injection engine allowed it to pull negative-g maneuvers which caused the carb-fed Merlin to cut out.
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03-08-2005, 01:41 PM
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#174 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | buth both the hurricane and spit could turn inside the -109..........
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03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
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#175 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Yes but the problem was that the 109 pilots knew that so they got up-sun, dived on the Spits and Hurricanes and kept on diving, confident in the fact that the lack of fuel injection meant that they would be well away before the planes they were firing at could follow
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03-08-2005, 01:44 PM
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#176 | | Senior Member
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Country: | ...to which the 109 responded by inverting, opening the throttle and ramming the stick foward. The Merlin would cut out if an RAF fighter tried to follow. Not much use at low alts, I admit, but then a lot of the dogfighting during the BoB was pretty high up 
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03-09-2005, 01:12 PM
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#177 | | Junior Member
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| I like the 109 the best, however, a careful review of the facts shows the Spitfire as the better performer. Btw the Hurri could out-turn the Spit, especially at low altitudes, the 109 being left behind by both. For an interesting analysis see: Spitfire Mk I versus Me 109 E: A Performance COmparison |
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03-09-2005, 01:45 PM
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#178 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | man the hurricane should be running away with this one, perhaps it's time for the return of spam voting??
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03-09-2005, 03:59 PM
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05-24-2005, 05:12 AM
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#180 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Spitfire had a turning advantage and the Bf-109 had a climb and dive advantage or was it the other way around. Anyway, I like the Spitfire and as proof of how good it was it stayed in service until the 1960s-1970s sometimes up until the 1980s. The Bf-109 airframe was approaching its limits at the end of WW2. Bf-110s were large vulnerable aircraft that were difficult to successfully use as fighters as they lacked manevorability. |
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