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04-02-2004, 10:21 AM
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Country:  | Or maybe it's that the B-17 formations were bombing during the day but the Lancs were smartly bombing at night so they didn't get seen...until the spotlights were put on them and then the 88 and 105 mm Flak shells were flying up..and well yeah.  Some of these emoticons just don't mean anything...
Anyway, I like the B-25 and I don't know why..maybe the doolittle raid has something to do with it..  HA it's a sperm...why? oh why?
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04-02-2004, 11:49 AM
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Country:  |  i think horse just got a pack of those "1000 smileys" and added it to the site
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04-02-2004, 11:54 AM
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Country: | They are pretty cool, make me laugh anyway and I'm not easily amused...ahaahaha...look at that mouse....
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04-02-2004, 11:57 AM
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04-03-2004, 10:52 PM
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| For some reason people think the B-17 was an amazing aircraft. What they forget is the B-24 carried a higher payload and flew longer distances.
The best bomber of WW2 has to be the B-29. The B-29 was capable of carring a heavier bomb loads and longer distances then any other aircraft at that time . When Lemay had the B-29 aircraft stripped all of the guns off of to carry more bombs Japan was in serious trouble. The B-29 also discovered the Jet stream while flying to and from Japan at high altitudes. Because of the jet stream causing mission problems they decided to remove the armament and fly lower over the targets. After the war the B-29's were converted to B-50's and the WB-50's and the B-50's were used to bomb targets in the Korean war. The WB-50's were being used as weather reconissance aircraft until the early 1960's
The Russians even copied the B-29 design but there is no record of any nation copying any of the English designed bombers. | |
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04-04-2004, 07:41 AM
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Country: | Very true, but the thing is about the Korean war is that the B-29s were soon made obselete by the Mig-15, very soon.
No one would copy the British bombers since they were early war designs and lasted the whole War, and afterwards of course they'd be out-dated. The B-29 was late war and of course would last a few years afterwards, although, as I said it was soon made obselete by the Mig-15s.
The Russian copy, the Tu-4 'Bull' was exactly the same, copied off crashed B-29s in Sibera, the only change was 23mm cannons instead of 12.7mm guns. This isn't really that great of an achievement, to have a design copied because the Russians would of copied the only thing they had avaliable, they needed a new heavy bomber.
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04-04-2004, 11:06 PM
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| The Mig 15 was a great aircraft but the F-86 had more experienced pilots. If there had not been so many politics to keep the F-86 from following the Mig-15's to their bases. The F-86's would have cleaned the clocks of the Mig 15's. The B-29's had bombed most of their targets in Korea into the stone age and as a result they did not have a mission. If Truman had given General McArthur permission to win the war. We would have taken care of the "problem in China" and who knows maybe the USSR would not have been a major power like they turned out to be. General McArthur had the right idea but.... | |
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04-05-2004, 01:01 AM
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Country:  | I am sorry chaps. The single best bomber of WW2 was the JU88.
Why? Because I said so!  
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04-05-2004, 07:10 AM
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Country: | no no, the P.108 WOULD have been the best had it been given a chance, but i say the best plane on that list is the b-29 
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04-05-2004, 07:40 PM
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#85 | | Hairy one of Old Judea
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I have finally worked out how to put a graphic in my signature. Damn I'm slow sometimes!
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04-06-2004, 06:59 AM
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04-07-2004, 12:22 PM
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| The best bomber of WW2 was the DH Mosquito - the B-17 was a crap plane compared to the Mossie
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04-10-2004, 02:31 PM
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Country: | best bomber, the lancaster easily......................
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04-12-2004, 02:55 PM
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| lancaster all the way if it had some more time itwould have killed berlin. | |
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04-12-2004, 03:51 PM
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Country: | I'd have to say the B-29 because it was, but it was a newer design than the Lanc. The Lanc was a lasting design and very good, but the B-29 was just better.
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