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#241 | | He who does not skim
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03-05-2005, 05:45 AM
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#242 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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03-05-2005, 05:46 AM
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#243 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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03-05-2005, 05:54 AM
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#244 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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03-05-2005, 06:01 AM
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#245 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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#246 | | Facetious Extraordinaire
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05-24-2005, 05:54 PM
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#247 | | Member
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| Willy Reschke shot down a tempest in a turnfight at low speed and low altitude in his ta-152H which was designed for high altitudes !! People who flew the ta-152 all confirm it outclimbed , outdove, outaccelerated anything the allies had. It was also superior in turnfights to almost any allied plane, especially at high altitudes. It was therefore the best piston driven a/c of WWII. | |
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05-25-2005, 10:30 AM
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#248 | | Master of Ewes
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05-25-2005, 04:25 PM
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#249 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Take into account that the Tempest pilot wouldn't know what to make of the new aircraft. He didn't know the capabilities of the Ta-152 but the Ta-152 pilot knew his.
For the Tempest pilot it was like fighting blind!
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05-28-2005, 09:42 AM
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#250 | | Minister of Whoopass
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For the Tempest pilot it was like fighting blind!
| Dont quite believe that.... Sure, he wouldnt know what to expect from a new foe, but he certainly would be putting his everything, man and machine, into defeating the new aircraft...... He definatly would NOT think it inferior.......
Any intellegent individual in 1945 would rationalize that if the Germans had a new COMBAT aircraft, that it would rightly be superior in performance to the most recent German aircraft produced.... (Prototype is a different matter)
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05-28-2005, 10:30 AM
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#251 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Not knowing your enemies aircraft doesn't mean you think it's inferior to previous aircraft. The Tempest pilot wouldn't know what to make of it, does he try and out-turn, out-run, out-climb, out-dive it? See, he doesn't know and is at a distinct disadvantage.
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05-28-2005, 12:26 PM
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#252 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Country: | If it was me, I'd try to weigh it out if I was at an advantage (behind, above, spotting the other aircraft first etc.), the minute things weren't going well, I'd run like hell!
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05-28-2005, 01:45 PM
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| If Reschke got the Tempest flying at low speed and low altitude, e.g. at low energy, he wouldn´t have a problem with it (like any other plane). Any plane at low energy goes for turky shots.
With the specifications in mind, I would assume that the Tempest could do better on equal terms in low altitude against the Ta-152 H.
The best dogfighter of ww2, hands down, is the He-162. It saw limited service as well as aerial dogfights and therefore is qualified.
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05-28-2005, 01:57 PM
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#254 | | the old Sage
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Country: | you terms for the He 162 is baseless........
indeed the Ta 152H was a tough cookie but it never flew at high altitiude against any Allied/soviet a/c.
I've got a full on operative forms coming to me from Will Reschke along with Hans Müller cover their exploits in the Ta 152 | |
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05-28-2005, 08:12 PM
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#255 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | The -152H had pressureization problems, and a decompression issue that was never fully solved..... But at medium atitude it still owned all the other prop jobs, but once again, pilot skill factors in as well.......
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