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05-29-2005, 05:30 AM
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#256 | | Senior Member
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| The pressuraizaton problems are reasoned on the tigthened pipe, which sealed the canopy. There have been similar problems in the V-models for this issue. However this is far away from happen regularly and even if, the emergancy breathing hood would do the job...
Erich, why do you think the He-162 shouldn´t be mentioned? Beacuse it is a jet engined one or because of mechanical problems or performances? If we just compare the abilities in dogfighting this plane could match anything in the skies.
I f we go for piston engined planes only, I would favour the Ta-152 C.
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05-29-2005, 09:46 AM
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#257 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | Heres alittle Snippit from Willi Reschke...
Tempests vs. Ta 152H, 14 April 1945
By Prof. Erata
Background: While carrying on a final rearguard against the Allied air forces, the Luftwaffe continued to fight fiercely with its determined pilots and its remarkable fighter aircraft, one of which was the Focke-Wulf Ta 152H. The only unit which used it, the Stabsschwarm JG 301 (JG 301 Staff Formation), won a few kills with this aircraft, one on 14 April 1945.
In the words of Ofw. Reschke:
"Two enemy fighters were spotted some eight kilometres to the south-west of the field, making low-level passes over Ludwigslust railway yards. Three Ta 152 took off at once, piloted by the Oblt. Aufhammer, the Ofw. Sattler and myself. We were immediately in contact with the enemy fighters, which turned out to be Tempests. Flying in n°3 position, I witnessed the Ofw. Sattler ahead of me dive into the ground seconds before we reached them. It was hardly possible for his crash to have been the result of enemy action, as the Tempest pilots had clearly only just registered our presence. Now began a fight at two against two at the ground-level, which was never to climb above 50 metres. At this altitude neither could afford to make the slightest mistake. And for the first time since flying the Ta 152 I began fully to appreciate exactly what this aircraft could do.
"Pulling ever tighter turns, I got closer and closer to one of the Tempests, never once feeling I was even approaching the limit of the Ta’s capabilities. When he flicked over onto the opposite wing I knew his last attempt to turn inside me had failed. My first burst of fire caught the Tempest in the tail and rear fuselage; its pilot immediately engaged its aircraft in a starboard turn, giving me an even greater advantage. I pressed my gun buttons a second time, but after a few rounds my weapons fell silent and refused to fire another shot. However, the Tempest, which had already taken hits continued desperately to twist and turn, and I positioned myself so that I was always just within his field of vision. Eventually, inevitably, it stalled. The Tempest’s left wing dropped and he crashed into the woods immediately below us, about one kilometre of the site from Sattler’s crash. The Tempest pilot, the W/O O.J. Mitchell was buried side by side with the Ofw. Sattler next day in Neustadt-Glewe cemetery with full military honours".
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05-29-2005, 10:06 AM
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#258 | | the old Sage
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Country: | the Ta 152C did not have time to prove itslef in combat as only 5-6 were flown by JG 301 on 1-2 missions. Same goes for the He 162.
friends see my webpages for more from Will Reschke and like I said I will have more from him personally and another unknown ace whom I did not know flew the Ta 152H in combat.... tis from the small but very private JG 301 get together a week agao in Dresden | |
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05-29-2005, 10:30 AM
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#259 | | the old Sage
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Country: | also of note is a translated page to English briefly of Jupp Keils flights on 10 April of 45. At the top of or web-pages....
Horrido !
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05-29-2005, 10:44 AM
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#260 | | the old Sage
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Country: | also if I may suggest Will Reschkes JG 301/302 book and Monogram Monarch will have a new book on the Ta 152 shortly.... | |
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05-29-2005, 01:34 PM
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#261 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | erich, im glad to see u guys have updated some of the info there on yr site... I always enjoy going there... GREAT INFO!
For those who do not already have it bookmarked, heres the link.... http://members.aol.com/falkeeins/Stu.../contents.html
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01-18-2006, 02:54 PM
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| The BEst dog fighter
its SIMPLE the Spitfire and aviation master piece which ill neer be able to fly
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01-19-2006, 11:31 AM
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#263 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | What I do not understand what you just said. The 109D would outfly a Spitfire at high alltitudes anyhow and I really dont get the Quote: |
Spitfire and aviation master piece which ill neer be able to fly
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01-19-2006, 05:20 PM
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#264 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Me neither, Im lost on him as well....
The Fw-190D-9, according to an majority of our esteemed membership, is the Best Dogfighter of World War II...
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01-19-2006, 05:33 PM
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#265 | | Senior Member
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| Best guess. Spitfire an aviation masterpiece that I will never be able to fly. | |
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01-20-2006, 06:16 AM
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#266 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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01-21-2006, 03:06 AM
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#267 | | Master of Ewes
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01-22-2006, 06:32 AM
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#268 | | Der Crewchief
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01-22-2006, 06:50 AM
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01-26-2006, 12:37 PM
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#270 | | Junior Member
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| How many bomber were shot down when escorted by the Tuskeegee Airmen? And what plane did they fly? Nuff said.
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