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04-09-2006, 07:09 AM
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#361 | | Minister of Whoopass
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thank very much beside do you have to be rude to try and make a point
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I agree with pb, there is no way to possibly determine who won a dogfight between two supersonic jets, pilot or no pilot.... Quote: |
and as far as the army goes , what would you know
| I was a Navy SEAL and saw more combat than u did Im sure, and endured one of the toughest training curriculums in the world.... Army Rangers??? HA! We were singing cadences while they were puking their guts out....
U Army pukes could shine my jump boots for $5.00 bucks, if u asked me nice enough...
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04-09-2006, 09:44 AM
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| i was going by what the pilot on the ground was saying , he was in radio contact with them
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04-09-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lonestarman63 sorry to flyboy i do see your point and as far as the army goes , what would you know | I'm a pilot and flown high performance aircraft (as a civilian) participated in simulated combat and tested weapon systems, I learned a little about this stuff in my 29 years in the aircraft industry - and by that comment its evident you know little or nothing about combat aircraft and how they may be used, and you were also too dumb to read some of the profiles here and find out who you're communicating with -
And by the way the "Guy on the Ground" is called a "FAC." Forward Air Controller -or don't they tell you that "as far as the Army Goes"?!?!? Mushrooms grow better in the dark left undisturbed and fed with bullshit!!! 
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04-09-2006, 12:35 PM
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#364 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | you're basing your entire argument around the plane's combat record against one fighter type? a fighter type that it was designed to take on, was about all it took on, was often flown by infereor pilots and was pretty much the only plane taking it on? well of course it's going to get kills, what happens when you put her up against a Spit XIV? or Fw-190D? you're gonna die, because the hellcat rarely got into turning fights with the zero, "boom and zoom" got most if their kills, go fast and hard, and DON'T get into a turning fight with a zero, you cannot base an argument for a aircraft because of it's combat record against an older, infereor plane...........
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04-09-2006, 01:41 PM
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#365 | | Minister of Whoopass
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he was in radio contact with them
| What kind of radio was this that he was using to talk to fighter pilots from the ground??? One of those special "make believe" radios????
I sure could have used one of those....
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04-09-2006, 08:59 PM
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| what does that have to do with the fact he was there and your right dumb ass i was talking in gen to you as far as your profile i do not give a rats ass , the point is your thoughts are to high and mighty and do not mean anything , so your sayng thata pilot on the ground was is a combat pilot is a dumb ass also you high and mighty load of crap and i am right about the hellcat in my thoughts prove it wrong
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04-09-2006, 09:16 PM
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#367 | | Minister of Whoopass
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But for now, here's alittle warning.... My thoughts are high and mighty, and so is my size 14 shoe.... Before it gets permanently inserted into ur ass, u gotta ask urself a question, would my Mommy be proud, cause ur Immigration Officer sure wouldnt be....
Ur a meatball concerning the Hellcat, and u need to prove urself here moron, not the other way around... It's irrelevant anyways, cause I can tell ur stay here is gonna be a short one...
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04-09-2006, 09:29 PM
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#368 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Dude, if ur 43 years old, ur either retarded, or "A Very Special Little Man"... Ur an embarassment to Americans across the globe....
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04-09-2006, 09:49 PM
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#369 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | It's kind of embarrassing for this guy who is an American most likely older than me, cause even i can speak better english than he does, and im just a kid from a poor little bunch of islands
and lonestar, it takes my quite a while to understand ur posts
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04-10-2006, 02:45 AM
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#370 | | Master of Ewes
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it takes my quite a while
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and i dunno how long it's been there but i've just noticed les's rank/title 
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04-10-2006, 03:34 AM
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04-10-2006, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass but they again you also refer to yourself in the possesive | typo 
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04-11-2006, 08:19 AM
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#373 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | I will throw in my $.02. I have seen both the Zero and the Hellcat fly on numerous occasions, together and separately. Below 275-300, the Zero will easily eat the Hellcat for lunch. Above that, the Zero is just a dart. Compare the 2 airplanes side by side and you will notcie right away that the Hellcat is pretty close to twice the size of the Zero. Yes, it was rugged and made a good show in the Pacific, but the Hellcat was no match for an FW-190, if everything else was equal with pilots..
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| N1K2-J George for me. Not the fastest plane in this comparison but often underrated. Excellent medium altitude performer, good rate of climb, good dive, excellent handling, decent firepower.
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04-12-2006, 03:43 AM
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#375 | | Master of Ewes
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ | can you really blame that guy's dad?
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