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Messerschmitt Bf-110 16 3.01%
Messerschmitt Bf-109E/F 97 18.27%
Focke-Wulf Fw-190A 153 28.81%
P-38 Lightning 68 12.81%
P-40 Warhawk 22 4.14%
Supermarine Spitfire 142 26.74%
Boulton Paul Defiant 5 0.94%
Bristol Beaufighter 6 1.13%
Hawker Hurricane 22 4.14%
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:47 PM   #316
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Ok Bill I will wait until you dig that up before I respond.

Can you please get their names and qualifications. Also the amount of time they flew the 109 when testing it.

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In case ayone didn't catch this the first time:
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RAE did no test for either turn times or radius. The figures given by RAE for the 109E are rough estimates, with the Cl figures estimated from tests done to determine Cl on the Spitfire. Even on the latter, the Cl was determined, or rather again, estimated from stall speed tests. And, none of the RAE figures contain data for turn capacity of the Emil with its flaps deployed (the Spitfire didn`t have combat flaps, it was either up or down for landing). It think its quite reasonable to think that Messerschmitt AG had better understanding of the 109E`s Cl than RAE.
So there wasn't an actual turn test for the 109E.


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The comments about the 109 being embarrased clearly refers to the 109 losing its sighting position which is quite understandable
Firstly this coment comes from the 109G vs Tempest testing:
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The Hawker Tempest Page

Tempest V Tactical Trials

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Turning Circle

The Tempest is slightly better, the Bf.109G being embarrassed by its slots opening near the stall.
And second the 109F and later models no longer had problems with aileron snatching, lateral shutter, or high G jamming of the slats. Although the pilot could still feel and hear a shock from the slat deployment on later models iirc, there was no effect on the aircraft its self, so no change in sighting.

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Old 03-21-2008, 02:56 PM   #318
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The comments about the 109 being embarrased clearly refers to the 109 losing its sighting position which is quite understandable
This is quite laughable. You cut and paste an 1940 test on a 109E and an 1944 test on a 109G, put the quotes out of context from the two records, parts taken from here and there like in the Frankenstein story.. and result looks equally silly.

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Thank you for the last snide comment, Kurfurst. This thread is now closed.
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Freakin dumbass, this thread was a good one too....
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