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09-17-2005, 12:06 PM
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#1 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Best ETO fighter from 1939-1942
Allright everyone I am going to try this one again. What is the best fighter of the ETO for the period of 1939-1942. After thinking about I sort of have come to the conclusion (this is just my opinion) that during that time the aircraft of the ETO were most closely equal to one another. So lets see what you all think. I personally think the best was the Bf-109E until about 1941 closely followed by the Bf-109E and then the Fw-190A. Now during this time as I stated aircraft such as the Spitfire were about the same as there Luftwaffe counterparts, sure they would flip flop with the RAF having the upperhand and then the Luftwaffe would gain the upperhand. What is your opinion on this matter though. I will only list aircraft in the poll though that reached operational status and were the main ones. If I leave some out please feel free to discuss them in the thread. For all intensive purposes we will consider the Mediteranian Theatre as the ETO.
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09-17-2005, 12:14 PM
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#2 | | World Traveler
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Country:  | I would say the Defiant.
Seriously though I would say that it would be between the Spitfire and the FW190. The MKV was a counter to the FW190 and was in some ways superior. This all comes down to the skill of the pilot and personal preference as the main fighters (Spitfire, 190 and 109) are all fairly equal. Being a Spitfire fan though I will say the Spitfire with the FW190 and BF109 a close second and third with the P-38 fourth.
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09-17-2005, 12:17 PM
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#3 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I would pretty much agree with your assessement, especially about the equal part of the Spit, Bf-109 and Fw-190. I though would rate the 109 above the Spit due to the fact that I am a 109 fan and obviously the 190 was better than the 109 so I would put it ahead of both.
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09-17-2005, 12:42 PM
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#4 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | Fw-190A... The Brits spent more time redesigning the Spitfire, trying to combat the -190 and its superior performance, than they did they -109...
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09-17-2005, 12:43 PM
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#5 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yeap that I aqree with also. I think I have a pretty good idea about how this thread is going to go.
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09-17-2005, 01:48 PM
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#6 | | Senior Member
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Country: | P38 Lightning for me. Had multi roles and was very useful in carrying up 1,200 pound bomb load. Also was used by America's leading aces in the pacific.
The -38 also played a important role in the Normandy landings.
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09-17-2005, 04:13 PM
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#7 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | JUST AS A REMINDER TO THE SMALLER BRAINED, THIS POLL IS FOR 1939-1942 ONLY.........
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09-17-2005, 04:27 PM
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#8 | | Master of Ewes
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-38, the P-38 sucked early in the war.........
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09-17-2005, 04:29 PM
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#9 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Hence my post.... And when was D-Day again??? 1942????
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09-17-2005, 05:20 PM
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#10 | | Senior Member
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| D-Day for operation Torch was Nov 1942.
P38's were operational in Iceland and England for most of 1942. I think the 1st FG and their Lightnings also engaged in some combat in North Africa, after the Torch landings. So we should include the P38 in the poll.
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09-17-2005, 05:44 PM
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#11 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yes it should be included but how effective was it in 1942.
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09-17-2005, 05:59 PM
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#12 | | Senior Member
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| At the end of 1942, Id rank it #3.
the Spit and 190 were better.
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09-17-2005, 06:04 PM
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#13 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The P-38 had problems in the ETO due to the cabin heating that is why I would not rank it so high here in the ETO.
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09-17-2005, 06:33 PM
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#14 | | Senior Member
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| The cabin heating problem was managable in the MTO. Plus it still outperformed the hurricane at most altitudes.
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09-17-2005, 09:00 PM
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#15 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | In the MTO yes. That is also why I said for this thread the MTO is included with the ETO.
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