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Messerschmitt Me-262 218 73.65%
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Old 12-25-2004, 02:02 PM   #271
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well it's only 16:44 here, but not brilliant, i got IL-2FB but it rins upside down............
What graphics card do you have? What drivers are you running? Is the version of DX you are running compatible with the program?
 
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Old 12-25-2004, 03:36 PM   #272
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Yeah I guess that all could have something to do with it. My laptop is so old it can not handle games like that. Just hope it will last another couple of weeks and then I am going to have to get a new one when I get home.
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"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
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I remember a while back in this thread there was something about Meteors downing V-1s. I don't know if any information was gained on it, and I cannot be bothered to look but on 4th August 1944, Flight Officer JK Roger flying a Gloster Meteor of 616 Sqd. was the first pilot to shoot down a V-1 by cannon-fire.
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I am not sure I am trying to research it myself but here is what I found so far.

In daylight, V-1 chases were chaotic and often unsuccessful until a special defence zone between London and the coast was declared in which only the fastest fighters were permitted. Between June and mid-August 1944, the handful of Tempests shot down 638 flying bombs. (One Tempest pilot, Joseph Berry, downed fifty-nine V-1s, another 44, and Wing Commander Beaumont destroyed 31.) Next most successful was the Mosquito (42, Spitfire XIV (303), and Mustang, (232). All other types combined added 158. The still-experimental jet-powered Gloster Meteor, which was rushed half-ready into service to fight the V-1s, had ample speed but suffered from a readily jammed cannon and accounted for only 13.

Now if you go to: http://www.redtwo.demon.co.uk/616/Welcomehist.htm
it has a history of the 616th and ti also says that on the 4th he was the first to shoot down a V-1 "diver" with a Meteor. From what I can tell Tempests shot down more even before the Meteor. I may be wrong but this is just from what I can gather.

F/O J.K.Rodger sighted a Diver at 1640 hrs. near Tenterden on course of 318° at 3000 ft speed 340 mph. Attacking from astern Rodger fired 2 bursts of 2 seconds and saw the Diver crash and explode, 5 miles N.W. of Tenterden.
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Old 12-26-2004, 03:11 AM   #275
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By "diver" could it mean a V1 that had begun its decent?
 
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It seems that most of the downings were not by cannon but by getting the V-1 to dive into the ground by getting your wing just under the V-1's small wing.
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At the website it says that "diver" is what the Brits called them, not a flying bomb or a V-1.
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The British called them Doodlebugs, mostly. So, from that we can gather that the Meteor didn't really do much in World War 2 except save a few lives with those 13 V-1s downed.

Random fact on the V-1 - Approx. 7000 were launched at Britain which accounted for just over 6000 deaths.
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well it's only 16:44 here, but not brilliant, i got IL-2FB but it rins upside down............
What graphics card do you have? What drivers are you running? Is the version of DX you are running compatible with the program?
don't get me wrong the program runs perfectly, i even tried flying the -262 and it worked, it's just upside down...................
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I think what he's driving at is if you're running the wrong version/type of software with your graphics card, funny things may happen.
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could just be the disk.............
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Well that'd be a new one, on me. I've never heard of that before!
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parhaps if i put the disc in upside down...............
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The V-1 (also known as a flying bomb, buzz bomb or doodlebug) was a pilotless monoplane that was powered by a pulse-jet motor and carried a one ton warhead. They were launched from a fixed ramp and travelled at about 350mph and 4,000ft and had a range of 150 miles (240km). It was 8 metres (25 feet) long and had a wingspan of about 5.5 metres (20 feet).

Germany launched its new weapon from Pas-de-Calais on the northern coast of France, on 12th June, 1944. The first ten failed to reach the country but on the following day one landed in Essex. Over the next few months 1,435 hit south-east England. These attacks created panic in Britain and between mid June and the end of July, around one and a half million people left London.

Germany fired 9,521 V-I bombs on southern England. Of these 4,621 were destroyed by anti-aircraft fire or by RAF fighters such as the new turbojet fighter, the Gloster Meteor. An estimated 6,184 people were killed by these flying bombs. By August only 20 per cent of these bombs were reaching England.
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Random fact on the V-1 - Approx. 7000 were launched at Britain which accounted for just over 6000 deaths.
Pretty darn expensive way to kill civilians huh?

Historical note: The USA copied the V-1 under project MX544, designating it the JB-2 (USAAF)/KUW-1 (USN) with some minor changes.

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Despite the V-1's limitations, the US military was very interested in it. In contrast to the bumbling American efforts in radio-controlled flying bombs such as the BQ weapons, the German V-1 looked pretty good, and in July 1944 captured V-1 components were shipped to Wright-Patterson Field in Ohio for evaluation. Within three weeks, the USAAF and American industry had built their own V-1, which was designated the "Jet Bomb 2 (JB-2)".

In August, the USAAF placed an order for 1,000 JB-2s with improved guidance systems: Ford built the pulse-jet engine, designated "PJ-31"; Republic built the airframe; and other manufacturers built the control systems, launch rockets, launch frames, and remaining components.

The JB-2s were launched off a rail with a solid rocket booster, in contrast to the somewhat complicated steam catapult system used by the Germans. Two versions were built, one with a gyroscopic guidance system like that used with the V-1, and the other with a radio-radar guidance system.

The USAAF then experimented with air-launching the JB-2. Most of the launches were from a B-17 bomber, though some were performed from B-24s and B-29s. The Air Force was so enthusiastic with the results that they increased the order for JB-2s to 75,000 in January 1945. However, the end of the war in August dampened enthusiasm for the weapon, and the program was terminated in September of that year after 1,200 had been built.
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The intent was to use these to deliver nerve gas and/or anthrax if Japan refused to surrender by the intended invasion date (Jan 1946?). There are numerous small islands around Japan which would have brought almost the whole country within the 200 mile range of these weapons.

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