Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums

Best Jet of the War?

Polls Discuss Best Jet of the War? in the World War II - Aviation forums; SPECIFICATIONS Span: 17 ft. 8 in. Length: 27 ft. 1 in. Height: 4 ft. 8 in. Weight: 5,023 lbs. ...


Go Back   Aircraft of World War II - Warbird Forums > World War II - Aviation > Polls

View Poll Results: Best jet of the war?
Messerschmitt Me-262 218 73.65%
Arado Ar-234 'Blitz' 31 10.47%
Heinkel He-280 22 7.43%
Gloster Meteor 25 8.45%
Voters: 296. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 12-26-2004, 04:15 PM   #286
Der Crewchief
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 29,822
Country:
SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 17 ft. 8 in.
Length: 27 ft. 1 in.
Height: 4 ft. 8 in.
Weight: 5,023 lbs. loaded
Armament: 2,100 lb. high-explosive warhead
Engine: Ford PJ-31-F-1 of 900 lbs. thrust (copy of German Argus-Schmidt pulse-jet)

PERFORMANCE
Operating speed: 375-400 mph
Launching speed: 220 mph
Range: 150 miles
Operating Altitude: 2,000 to 4,000 ft.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg ap15.jpg (21.9 KB, 467 views)
DerAdlerIstGelandet is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 04:20 PM   #287
Anonymous
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet
SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 17 ft. 8 in.
Length: 27 ft. 1 in.
Height: 4 ft. 8 in.
Weight: 5,023 lbs. loaded
Armament: 2,100 lb. high-explosive warhead
Engine: Ford PJ-31-F-1 of 900 lbs. thrust (copy of German Argus-Schmidt pulse-jet)

PERFORMANCE
Operating speed: 375-400 mph
Launching speed: 220 mph
Range: 150 miles
Operating Altitude: 2,000 to 4,000 ft.
Actual US studies indicated the range could be extended to 200 miles - perhaps at a lower speed.

It's not very easy to find, but there is substantial evidence that the intended warheads would be chemical/biological. In fact, it was Churchill's intent to drop Anthrax on Germany in 1944, but the US dragged its feet on providing him with the bombs.

=S=

Lunatic
 
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 04:30 PM   #288
Der Crewchief
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 29,822
Country:
Anthrax a nasty bio weapon.
__________________

US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006

Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes:

fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

"wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2"

"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
DerAdlerIstGelandet is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 05:28 PM   #289
Senior Member
 
plan_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,057
Country:
Send a message via MSN to plan_D Send a message via Yahoo to plan_D


And there's the firing platform for the Loon.
__________________
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

To those in that club.
plan_D is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 05:29 PM   #290
Der Crewchief
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Ansbach, Germany
Posts: 29,822
Country:
interesting though, how the V-1 pretty much paved the way for the cruise missiles that we use today.
__________________

US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006

Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes:

fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

"wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2"

"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
DerAdlerIstGelandet is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 05:44 PM   #291
Senior Member
 
plan_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,057
Country:
Send a message via MSN to plan_D Send a message via Yahoo to plan_D
And the V-2 (and Von Braun - member of SS and technology director of the Nazi party) paved the way for ICBMs and space travel.
__________________
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

To those in that club.
plan_D is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:29 PM   #292
Senior Member
 
GermansRGeniuses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
Send a message via AIM to GermansRGeniuses Send a message via MSN to GermansRGeniuses
I wonder how an HWK rocket motor from the Me-163 would do in the V-1 if they were to be used as short-range battlefield artillery...


The mind boggles...
GermansRGeniuses is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:35 PM   #293
Senior Member
 
plan_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,057
Country:
Send a message via MSN to plan_D Send a message via Yahoo to plan_D
What's the point, they used the Nerbel-Werfer instead...
__________________
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

To those in that club.
plan_D is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:43 PM   #294
Senior Member
 
GermansRGeniuses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
Send a message via AIM to GermansRGeniuses Send a message via MSN to GermansRGeniuses
True, true...


Had forgotten the "Fog-Thrower!"

Still, I think it could be a good rocket delivery motor, at least when dropping airborne, like for a large anti-ship or armor rocket, coupled with a big warhead...
GermansRGeniuses is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:45 PM   #295
Senior Member
 
plan_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,057
Country:
Send a message via MSN to plan_D Send a message via Yahoo to plan_D
Anti-shipping would have been its best role, certainly.
__________________
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

To those in that club.
plan_D is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:48 PM   #296
Senior Member
 
GermansRGeniuses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
Send a message via AIM to GermansRGeniuses Send a message via MSN to GermansRGeniuses
Yep, the speed of the weapon coupled with a large warhead with a shaped charge would pierce armor well!
GermansRGeniuses is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:49 PM   #297
Senior Member
 
plan_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,057
Country:
Send a message via MSN to plan_D Send a message via Yahoo to plan_D
If you're air-launching it then drop down to just above sea-level and fire straight into the ships side, it wouldn't stand a chance. Although, it is dangerous with that engine...that tended to explode...
__________________
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

To those in that club.
plan_D is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 08:59 PM   #298
Senior Member
 
GermansRGeniuses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
Send a message via AIM to GermansRGeniuses Send a message via MSN to GermansRGeniuses
They could always create a fuse mechanism...


That way, when dropped in a dive, the rocket would drop, a fuse would be struck, and while a safe difference from the mothership, it would automatically light...


Something like that - Clever those Germans were, they'd figure something out...
GermansRGeniuses is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 09:01 PM   #299
Senior Member
 
plan_D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 12,057
Country:
Send a message via MSN to plan_D Send a message via Yahoo to plan_D
I'm sure they would, that does actually sound like a good idea. You'd have been a good use to the German war machine.

They did still have the Henschel Remote Bombs though, that did quite a bit of damage. Or you could have a Stuka dive on the ship with a SC1000...
__________________
"When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

To those in that club.
plan_D is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Old 12-26-2004, 09:03 PM   #300
Senior Member
 
GermansRGeniuses's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,043
Send a message via AIM to GermansRGeniuses Send a message via MSN to GermansRGeniuses
Stuka = Junk...


He-177, Ju-188/288, or Do-217 would make a good launch platform, I feel...


Though the Henschel bombs and torpedos were effective...
GermansRGeniuses is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Spurl this Post!Reddit! Wong this Post!
Closed Thread



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
   

AVIATION TOP 100 - www.avitop.com Avitop.com


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92