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03-07-2004, 11:15 AM
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#46 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | mmmmmmmmmm, i'll have to look it up..............
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04-20-2004, 07:47 AM
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#47 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | Here it is, the ju-287, not that anyone cares....
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04-20-2004, 01:46 PM
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#48 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | you mean it actually flew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-21-2004, 01:50 AM
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| The ME-163 komet is credited for shooting down 16 airplanes during the War according to an article I just read. I would have thought that more bombers met their fate then 16. One of the ME-163 Pilots was still alive and living in Dayton Ohio. You have to give the German aircraft designers credit for doing the impossible with as few resources as they had. Lucky for us they did not fly more of them. The article said they flew 5 minute missions because of fuel shortages. | |
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04-21-2004, 01:20 PM
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#50 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | they had enough fuel for a 7.5 minuite burn, but after that it acted as a high speed glider...................
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04-22-2004, 08:11 AM
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| Probably the best jet was the Meteor, but I voted the Ar234[b] as it's my favourite. I feel that they were in a class of their own, and it had terrific potential for further development. Like all German jets it suffered from Hitler's pre-occupation with bombers, bombers, bombers - It was a wicked 'Blitzschnell' bomber at that time of the War, but the old ' too little, too late ' doomed it's true development potential. I would have liked to have seen some serious forward-firing armament on them and improvement on their low-altitude performance, but they were excellent high-altitude reconnaissance aircraft and bomber- [only a 1000kg.]. They also may have been a handful for the Mosquitos too, if they'd had forward-firing guns [only 2x 30mm rear-firing installed], although not as manoevrable. They were IMHO the most well-developed and potentially reliable jet in the Luftwaffe, but by that stage of the War the factory workmanship was deteriorating beyond redemption... | |
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04-22-2004, 02:48 PM
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#52 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i like the meteor to, one hell of a plane...............
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04-22-2004, 05:39 PM
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| It's one aircraft I haven't studied much, but I do like them - I'm also very fond of Vampires, having grown up close to Ohakea Air Base where we had some, years ago, and they were often jockeying around the region on training flights.- Both aircraft have very similar nose & cockpits with the 4 x 20mm cannon, set-up underneath like the Mosquito FBVI's... | |
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04-23-2004, 01:28 PM
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#54 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | there's only four jet planes i can really say i like, and the meteor is one of them...............
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04-24-2004, 11:28 AM
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| Keep talking, I'm coming round... | |
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04-24-2004, 01:51 PM
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#56 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | what, you wanna know more about the meteor or my list?
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04-24-2004, 11:51 PM
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| Well, truthfully, I haven't read much about them, but that's the great thing about this, er, 'Interest/ Hobby/ Obsession'; there's always more to learn. I know our chaps flew them and they came into service very late in the War...I don't have quite the same passion for jets as WWII piston-engined fighters. It's always struck me how ironic it was to have won the War in the face of the late German jets, and that both sides never really 'duked' it out with jets...Everytime one hears the sound of a piston-job, you're curious, whereas jets sound rather the same...but I am keen to learn more of the War... | |
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04-25-2004, 06:41 AM
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#58 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | ironically the meteor never saw combat with a 262, it would be interesting to see which would come out on top, but after the war the meteor went on to break numerous world speed records, and was the first plane to reach 600mph and 1000kmph...............
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04-26-2004, 10:39 PM
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| It was definately a better-designed aircraft, and far more reliable... | |
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04-27-2004, 07:28 AM
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#60 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but the egines couldn't produce as much thrust to begin with................
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