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06-12-2005, 07:09 AM
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#211 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | I agree. But both of them look fantastic.
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06-12-2005, 10:02 AM
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The Russians had a plane with 2 ramjets resembling the P-38? Tell me more
| I saw it in the documentary 'secret soviet planes of WWII'. It's name was barracuda or something that sounded alike. It looked like the p38 but with a sharp nose and one piston driven engine in the back and a ramjet engines on each side. First the plane would have to gain speed with the regular engine after which the ramjets were used. The plane was never put in production because of the fact that its engines consumed way too much fuel. They also said the russians were for a while the leading experts in rocket technology, but Stalin had most of their rocket scientists executed which ofcourse derailed their impetus... |
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06-12-2005, 10:06 AM
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#213 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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The Russians were very capable in rocket technology - take the Bereznak Isayev BI-1 for instance.
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06-12-2005, 02:45 PM
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#214 | | Master of Ewes
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06-12-2005, 03:33 PM
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| You sure it's spelled correct? My searches on yahoo and google were fruitless. |
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06-12-2005, 03:47 PM
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#216 | | Senior Member
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06-12-2005, 04:10 PM
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#217 | | the old Sage
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Country: | Actually the Fw 190A-5/U12 was pretty bitchin looking with plenty of firepower to take on US bombers in the fall of 43 till March of 44 in I./JG 11 |
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06-13-2005, 03:33 PM
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#218 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by Erich Actually the Fw 190A-5/U12 was pretty bitchin looking with plenty of firepower to take on US bombers in the fall of 43 till March of 44 in I./JG 11 | No arguments here, all varients of the Fw-190 were great looking, and very menacing. I know I would not want to have stared down the gun sights with one heading straight at me with its guns blazing.
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06-13-2005, 05:01 PM
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#219 | | the old Sage
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Country: | 6 2cm weapons and 2 .30's pumping lead at ya from behind. Not encouraging even for a courageous tail gunner. or the reverse for the nose gunner/bombadier.
I./JG 11 attacked usually in the time period I mentioned from the front in staffel strength. straight in-line and slightly in a V formation to the center of a bomber box.............yee haw ! |
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06-13-2005, 05:32 PM
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#220 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" |
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06-15-2005, 06:40 AM
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| I wouldn't want to be caught in that type by p51 or p47 escort fighters though  |
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06-15-2005, 11:29 AM
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#222 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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06-15-2005, 12:45 PM
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#223 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by marseille jr I wouldn't want to be caught in that type by p51 or p47 escort fighters though  | Why not. The P-51 was not as good as everyone thinks. It was overrated and late Fw-190A were just as good and a Fw-190D was better. Same for the P-47 even though it was better then the P-51.
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06-15-2005, 04:26 PM
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Why not. The P-51 was not as good as everyone thinks. It was overrated and late Fw-190A were just as good
| Yeah, me agree that the stang is a little bit overrated, but let's not drag it through the mire as it was an excellent aircraft all in all that saved many bomber crew's lifes. Btw, I didn't wanna be caught in an A becoz you would be playing the stang's game, namely contending at high altitudes at substantial speeds and finally diving away. Diving with a faster diver endowed with superior nimbleness (except rolling , ok) and 6 0.50's on yer tail isn't exactly what you might call a pleasant experience, especially when they are numerically superior, right?
The Dora was a lot more suited for this stuff as it dives formidably, but I always read it suffered from rather poor turning radius compared with the stang, at all speeds. It also forsook 2 of the A's cannons. So to say that the dora was so much better than the stang isn't quite right. I think they were generally well matched, with the Dora having the edge. |
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06-15-2005, 04:42 PM
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#225 | | the old Sage
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Country: | did you know that your pic of one of the D-9's flown by deceased friend Oskar Romm is copyrighted by the familie ?
Stab IV./JG 3 at Prenzlau this is one of two Dora 9's flown by him another shows his adjutants a/c that supposedly he flew but it is doubtful. Oskar scored 8 Soviet kills confirmed. he could out dive, outpace, out climb any Russian craft he encountered with the D variant. It helped of course that you were a kick in the ass pilot too.......... |
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