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11-07-2005, 04:49 PM
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#31 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | My vote is for the Abrams and a close second is the Leopard A2. I have ridden in both (which in no way proves they are the best, but was fun none the less).
__________________  US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | 
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11-08-2005, 02:03 AM
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11-08-2005, 02:03 PM
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#33 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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11-08-2005, 03:38 PM
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#34 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Thank that was a Canadian C2 Leopard MBT which is actually the Leopard1, Its been heavily upgraded so its not as obsolete as you think, right now it still uses the 105mm, but were going to refitt them with 120's
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And my misfits way of life.
A dark black past is my
Most valued possession.
Hindsight is always 20-20,
But looking back its still a bit fuzzy.
Speak of mutually assured destruction?
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11-08-2005, 03:47 PM
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#35 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | As far as I know, there are plans to get rid of them. Know anything about that? | |
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11-09-2005, 01:43 AM
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#36 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Ive heard that too, but that would probably be a Liberal plan and there days are numbered.
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11-09-2005, 02:55 AM
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#37 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Too bad they should just upgrade to leopard 2's. They are a really good tank.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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11-09-2005, 01:48 PM
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#38 | | Senior Member
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Country: | More than likely we would go for the Abrams, most of our army and Airforce equiptment we buy from the States.
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11-09-2005, 03:09 PM
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#39 | | Senior Member
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| Untill the Leopards are tested under actuall battle conditions, they must take a distant 4th seat behind the Abrams, Challanger and Merkava.
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11-10-2005, 05:40 AM
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#40 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer As far as I know, there are plans to get rid of them. Know anything about that? | i understand there to be replaced with some sort of us afv called the stryker | |
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11-10-2005, 10:07 AM
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#41 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | Yeah, that's what I've read. The Stryker MGS (Mobile Gun System). Basically an APC with a tank gun mounted on top. Knowing us, we'll think of it as a main battle tank and end up getting a lot of our own boys killed with it. 
I would hope not.
If the Army were to replace the tanks with actual tanks, I'm thinking they'd upgrade to Leopard 2's. A lot of our current Army equipment is of European design, not only American by any means. | |
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11-10-2005, 10:23 AM
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#42 | | Senior Member
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Country: | true, but the americans charge i little bit less for their stuff, If I were the defence minister I would have our own built though, the current C2 and the Abrams ect are way to big and that is a problem when ever your taking a city, I mean imagine the Allies trying to take Arnhem with the Abrams, they would have a hell of a time trying to get through those narrow alleys and road.
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Hello me...meet the real me.
And my misfits way of life.
A dark black past is my
Most valued possession.
Hindsight is always 20-20,
But looking back its still a bit fuzzy.
Speak of mutually assured destruction?
Nice story...tell it to readers digest!!! | |
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11-10-2005, 10:26 AM
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#43 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Nonskimmer Yeah, that's what I've read. The Stryker MGS (Mobile Gun System). Basically an APC with a tank gun mounted on top. Knowing us, we'll think of it as a main battle tank and end up getting a lot of our own boys killed with it.
I would hope not. | I hope your wrong on that point as well Skimm you must have one of the most eclectic armed forces in the world I know everyone buys in from other country's but the Canadian government seems to go at it with gusto.
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11-10-2005, 01:37 PM
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#44 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by syscom3 Untill the Leopards are tested under actuall battle conditions, they must take a distant 4th seat behind the Abrams, Challanger and Merkava. | And you great expertise of tanks confirms that.
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11-10-2005, 01:41 PM
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#45 | | Senior Member
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| 102 there are a number of tanks and other armoured viehicles out there which would fit your criteria. I would agree that the purchase of a licence to build your own would be worthwhile to save the development cost which would be significant. | |
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