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12-04-2005, 07:18 PM
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#106 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Just another thing to note, is that Germany is selling the Leopards to other European nations at record low prices. I am going to have to dig up this artical but I remember Poland being one of the buyers. It angered many Germans over here because of the fact that they were not even being sold at half the price that they could have been sold for. It was all over the German news on TV and in the papers.
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12-04-2005, 07:30 PM
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#107 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I believe I found an artical on it. The Germans sold them 128 old Leopard 2A4 tanks and is going to upgrade them for free.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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12-04-2005, 07:37 PM
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#108 | | Senior Member
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Just another thing to note, is that Germany is selling the Leopards to other European nations at record low prices. I am going to have to dig up this artical but I remember Poland being one of the buyers. It angered many Germans over here because of the fact that they were not even being sold at half the price that they could have been sold for. It was all over the German news on TV and in the papers. | I remember something about that myself, it was in January 2002.
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Hussars,
The reason the U.S. deploy DU projectiles instead of KE projectiles is rather simple, since Uranium is 2.5 times denser than steel the DU projectiles can achieve the same penetration performance in the L/44 gun as a KE projectiles can in the L/55 gun.
And since the U.S. is now considering to adopt the Rheinmetall 120mm L/55 gun, the Abrams will probably soon have the deadliest punch in the world for a MBT.
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12-04-2005, 11:02 PM
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12-05-2005, 12:05 AM
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#110 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | German tanks are back in Poland? Oh no, last time that happened World War II started. 
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12-05-2005, 10:42 AM
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12-05-2005, 11:06 AM
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#112 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by plan_D German tanks are back in Poland? Oh no, last time that happened World War II started. | LOL 
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12-05-2005, 11:26 AM
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12-05-2005, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by plan_D German tanks are back in Poland? Oh no, last time that happened World War II started. | Even worse yet, Germany is led by a woman this time.... Soon all men will be exterminated in a new Holocaust !  
__________________ We have built a total of about 1250 of this aircraft (Me-262), but only fifty were allowed to be used as fighters - as interceptors. And out of this fifty, there were never more than 25 operational. So we had only a very, very few.
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12-05-2005, 01:52 PM
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#115 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I cant stand Merkle. She is a dumb bitch!
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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12-05-2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Soren Quote: |
Originally Posted by plan_D German tanks are back in Poland? Oh no, last time that happened World War II started. | Even worse yet, Germany is led by a woman this time.... Soon all men will be exterminated in a new Holocaust ! | Note to self: "Wait for Germany to get a new Chancelor before going there..."
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12-05-2005, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D German tanks are back in Poland? Oh no, last time that happened World War II started. |
Oh great, alright just let me get my desert camo and my Ross Rifle 
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12-06-2005, 11:45 AM
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#118 | | Master of Ewes
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12-06-2005, 12:03 PM
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#119 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I think he was making a joke about how he would be equipped wrong.
__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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12-06-2005, 12:37 PM
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#120 | | He who does not skim
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Country: | He wouldn't want a Ross either.
A decent enough rifle for militia purposes, but often tended to fail under the rigours of rapid, continuous firing. It seized up after a while. Not the best for the front.
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