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05-28-2004, 10:31 PM
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#151 | | the old Sage
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Country: | c'mon think about it ! NJG 1 did not want to trade in their 110's like most of the NJG's had. The Bf 110G-4 was an outdated unit and they knew it but they did not want to change over as they had scored some 2,000 plus kills and why change with something that had provided sufficient flying and armament power......... |
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05-29-2004, 12:32 AM
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#152 | | Senior Member
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Country: | You think about it. You're arguing with yourself, I never said the Bf-110 was poor. I said it was good.
You said the people you interviewed would have wanted a JU88 early war, to me this means they were better. So, I said the Ju-88G was better than the Bf-110G. And now you're saying some people didn't want to swap, you're arguing with yourself man, calm down.
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05-29-2004, 08:30 AM
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#153 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i always the thought the 110 wasn't that bad..........
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05-29-2004, 10:01 AM
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#154 | | the old Sage
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Country: | arguing with myself.........never ! just giving my opinion and trying to answer your question(s).  |
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05-29-2004, 10:42 AM
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#155 | | Senior Member
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| the 110 is good
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05-29-2004, 12:06 PM
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#156 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Bf-110 was in bad need to be phased out! It sould have been by the Bf-210, but that design was a bust. So two years latter the 410 was out and what the 210 should have been while the poor old 110 was cannon fodder, or better put .50 cal fodder.
Now in all this talk of night fighters I have a question about the rader. The RAF was ahead of the USAAC in design, but from what I have read, it seems that the US did not get the British desgins. What do you all think.
Eric, ok I will look at the books you said. I have been looking for information on the Gumman F7F this last week. That was a great aircraft! Sad that it came to late. Grumman Cats were just fun.
LG- you have any info on the two seat P-38M or L night Lightning? I have only found a few referances to it.
I am reading about twin engin nightfighters this week 
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05-29-2004, 12:35 PM
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#157 | | the old Sage
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Country: | although some errors can be found Willow may I suggest Gebhard Aders, German night fighter Force 1914-1945. Maybe an OOP title but a must have for your research if you are serious about Germany's contirbutions in the war effort......... |
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05-30-2004, 07:55 PM
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#158 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Bf-110G was a good plane, and a great bomber destroy if the bomber stream had no escort. Late war it was getting a beating but it still served.
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05-30-2004, 11:06 PM
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#159 | | Senior Member
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| The P-38M was a direct conversion from the P-38L-5. A grand total of 75 conversions were made (it was clear the war was winding down). Its performance was very similar to the L (a little slower due to the weight and drag of the radar but still fast enough). The radar was the same APS-4 used on the nightfighting Hellcats and Corsairs in the Pacific. In an emergency, it could be jetisoned from the aircraft. I've not seen any clear cut info on the service record of the P-38M. It appears that a few made it to the Pacific before VJ day but I am unaware of any action they may have seen. Several were a part of the post-war occupation force.
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05-31-2004, 04:31 PM
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#160 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Thanks all. I have again been educated 
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06-01-2004, 11:01 AM
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#161 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | as have i 
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06-01-2004, 12:17 PM
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#162 | | the old Sage
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Country: | from my files............a nice little comparision for all of you between the Bf 110G-4 and the Ju 88G-6.
time frame is April of 45 when the staffeln of the nf force was consolidated.
Bf 110G-4:
Stab, 1 ,4 and 7./NJG 1
Stab./NJG 4
Stab, 4 and 7./NJG 5, mixed.........
Stab and 7./NJG 6
Ju 88G-6:
Stab, I, II, and III./NJG 2
Stab, I. 7 and 10./NJG 3
Stab, I., 4 and 7./NJG 4
Stab, I., 4, 7, and 10./NJG 5
Stab, I., 4, and 10./NJG 6
I. and II./NJG 100
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06-01-2004, 03:18 PM
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#163 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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06-01-2004, 03:31 PM
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#164 | | Member
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| I cannot vote in this poll, where's the He 219??? Just my opinion...
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06-01-2004, 04:01 PM
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#165 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | ive just realised that. or even the Hs129?
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