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02-07-2005, 01:13 PM
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#451 | | the old Sage
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Country:  | P-38 as the best nf ? 7 kills in the Pacific hardly contributes.
sorry guys look for another a/c like the Beufighter/Mossie/P-61 combinations for Allied a/c | 
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02-07-2005, 02:07 PM
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#452 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | mossie has to be the choice for the allies.............
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02-07-2005, 02:41 PM
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Country: | or the Beau, it was the first good aircraft used as a nightfighter
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02-07-2005, 02:46 PM
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#454 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Mosquito NF had a better combat record and was better in ability than the Beau. The Mosquito had the best combat record out of any NF, but the -262 was a better nightfighter in ability.
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02-07-2005, 02:57 PM
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#455 | | the old Sage
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Country: | best combat record (Mosquito) Allied correct ? The Bf 110G-4 probably did more combat operations than any other night fighter in the war even though by fall of 1944 the aircraft was derilict..............most successfull the ever present IV./NJG 1 with NJG 1 the overall leader with 2173 night kills and 145 day kill, few with the Ju 88G and maybe 40 with the He 219.
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02-07-2005, 03:41 PM
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#456 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | Woah, never knew the Me-110 was that successful...
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02-07-2005, 06:09 PM
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#457 | | Forum Politruk
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Country:  | With fixed upwards firing 20mm cannons for the Schräge-Musik and a Lichtenstein set? A Me-110 kitted out like that is bad news indeed.... | |
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02-07-2005, 07:53 PM
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#458 | | Senior Member
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Country: | The Mosquito was definately the best Allied NightFighter off record and ability.
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02-15-2005, 05:03 PM
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#459 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Ok, so the -38k might not have been the best alreound 38, but I like the gun set it had and as an intercepter that would have been great, yes? 
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02-15-2005, 05:06 PM
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#460 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | wow one 20mm and 4 .50cal, it's no 4x20mm............
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02-15-2005, 05:12 PM
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Country: | No true, for that then look at the P-61 But the P-38 held up it own for the war, yes?
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02-15-2005, 05:14 PM
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#462 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | not as a nf...............
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02-16-2005, 05:17 PM
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#463 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | For the short time it was around (I think it was as little as a week) I scored about a dozen kills...one guy became an nf ace in one...it wasnt bad...
Yeah, 4x20mm, big deal, how many rounds could it carry? And when all your guns are the same, they all fire at once. With 2 different types, you can fire either the .50 cals or the 20mm...so in effect you have a lot more firing time...
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02-16-2005, 06:30 PM
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#464 | | the old Sage
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Country: | there much more power in 20mm rounds, fewer to knock down your opponent.
P-38's scored 12 kills in the Pacific and there were no aces flying the machine. the P-38M came into service in the Pacific with the nfs in January/February 1946.
the best nf was the P-61 for the US and the Mossie XIX and XXX for the RAF
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02-17-2005, 06:30 AM
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#465 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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P-38's scored 12 kills in the Pacific and there were no aces flying the machine.
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