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05-04-2004, 03:14 PM
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05-04-2004, 04:05 PM
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| Well anything that didn't carry radar was hardly going to be an effective night fighter. The P-38M would have been a fine nightfighter if it had seen action (aopparenlty a few enter service just before the war ended but I don't know of any interceptions). There were some field modified P-38s that got into service down in the South Pacific. Two of the machine guns were moved forward and a radar set was squeezed in between the cockpit and the guns. Again, I don't know of any interceptions they actually made.
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05-05-2004, 06:44 AM
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Country:  | I don't know about the French planes being crap, they did shoot down quite a few Ju52 and Ju-87s, plus the fact the Germans used a few after the capture of France. Maybe it was just the pilots.
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05-05-2004, 09:02 AM
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| Most of the French planes that were captured were passed off to other Axis nations like Romania.
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05-05-2004, 10:08 AM
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Country: | Yes, but the Germans did apparently use a few, just like they did with the French tanks. If not only for a short time before passing them on.
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05-05-2004, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by plan_D I don't know about the French planes being crap, they did shoot down quite a few Ju52 and Ju-87s, plus the fact the Germans used a few after the capture of France. Maybe it was just the pilots. | 52s and 87s are hardly the most challenging of planes to shoot down though
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05-05-2004, 11:40 AM
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Country: | They are when escorted by 109s. Plus the French planes did get some 109 kills.
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05-07-2004, 10:33 AM
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Country: | wow  i dont think it was their planes that were crap, just the people flying them 
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05-07-2004, 11:33 AM
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| The French had some decent pilots, but, in general no one in Europe could match the Luftwaffe for pilot skill (not at the start of the war anyway).
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05-07-2004, 01:37 PM
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05-07-2004, 02:47 PM
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Country: | And because they were well trained. The British matched, and beat them in BoB though.
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05-08-2004, 01:37 PM
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Country: | so what if it was deigned to fly in a light fog, at 30,000ft in the tranistion between night and day?
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05-08-2004, 09:49 PM
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05-09-2004, 01:29 PM
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Country: | but it's a very specail one, it can't fly in any other conditions.........
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05-09-2004, 06:54 PM
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Country: | A Fighter with little or no military value, a waste of time, technology and money.
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