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04-16-2006, 08:19 PM
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| The F8F was a niche aircraft, whose design was a dead end.
The P38L, P51H, P47N and F4U-4 were all more superior.
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04-20-2006, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 The F8F was a niche aircraft, whose design was a dead end.
The P38L, P51H, P47N and F4U-4 were all more superior. | I agree, the Bearcat was a Kamikaze fighter but that was the limit of its practical abilities.
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04-21-2006, 07:31 AM
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Country:  | The F8F never quite made it into combat in WWII anyway. It was en route when the war ended. It climbs like a beast, but the range was too short to be much beyond a fleet defense fighter, and that is only after the threat is identified as inbound. No way it could loiter above for any length of time. I love the Bearcat, but it's range was it's shortcoming.
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04-24-2006, 10:02 PM
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Country: | Sure wish the Ki-44 Tojo was in this one. Hot motor in the later models and a couple of 40mm cannons equals big booms. (be a good shot cuz you don't get much ammo) Still went with the Corsair... | |
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04-05-2008, 01:55 AM
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Country:  | The F6F Hellcat accounted for more kills than both the F4U Corsair and F4F Wildcat, and shot down Mitsubishi A6M like flies. Yet it's behind F4U in the poll?? Wah? | |
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04-05-2008, 06:20 AM
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#411 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Yes it is behind in the polls. Why?
Becuase the Corsair was still a much better aircraft. Based on a combination of firepower, maneuverability and performance it was the best fighter to see service in the Pacific.
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04-05-2008, 01:02 PM
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04-05-2008, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Yes it is behind in the polls. Why?
Becuase the Corsair was still a much better aircraft. Based on a combination of firepower, maneuverability and performance it was the best fighter to see service in the Pacific. | That may be the case, but a plane should be judged by its combat record. F6F Hellcat's record is rock solid compared to Corsair. | |
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04-05-2008, 06:38 PM
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#414 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | The Corsair did not have a bad record either.
We are comparing aircraft here and fact is fact.
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04-05-2008, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet The Corsair did not have a bad record either.
We are comparing aircraft here and fact is fact. | That depends on what criteria you are judging the aircrafts. If going by plane characterstics, then F4U Corsair would be the victor. Going by number of kills, the Hellcat deserves a better position in the poll.
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04-06-2008, 12:53 AM
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Country:  | You're absolutely right; aircraft should be compared in different ways. I believe the majority of this discussion has been based on technical ability where the Corsair wins. I believe it would be wrong to ever compare aircraft by their kills, maybe their kill ratio would be a better comparison where I believe the Hellcat wins.
When it comes to the "Best" PTO fighter it really is asking which was the greatest at doing what it was designed to do. Let's be honest, the F6F and F4U had the same tasks and the Corsair was better equipped to do the job. Both aircraft were great but if you C-in-C wouldn't you choose the Corsair over the Hellcat?
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04-06-2008, 09:23 AM
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Country: | The bottom line is that the US Navy in 1944 evaluated the Hellcat and Corsair and stated that the Corsair should replace the Hellcat as soon as practicable. | |
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04-06-2008, 12:08 PM
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| I'm still voting for the P38L.
Excellent capabilities in most categories to make it #1
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04-06-2008, 08:03 PM
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Country: | Comparing the Corsair to the Hellcat is a bit like comparing the Spitfire to the Hurricane. (at the BoB) The Corsair/Spitfire were a bit trickier to fly, were much faster, generally more maneuverable (though not as good in a flat out turn), had higher stall speeds, had better all around visibility with worse visibility over nose, couldn't take quite as much damage, and were not available in as large of numbers as the Hellcat/Hurricane. | |
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04-06-2008, 10:15 PM
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Country: | Also, when you're talking about bulk number of kills that the two aircraft got, keep in mind the Hellcat entered service BEFORE the Corsair.
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