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04-22-2008, 05:57 PM
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Country: | Im going to have to go with the F6F hellcat, was a good match with the zero and gave a relief from the F4F which was becoming really outdated when the Hellcat pounced onto the pacific.
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04-22-2008, 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by road_apple1861 Im going to have to go with the F6F hellcat, was a good match with the zero and gave a relief from the F4F which was becoming really outdated when the Hellcat pounced onto the pacific. | But the Hellcat didnt go up with as many top notch IJN and IJA pilots like the P38 and F4U pilots had to go against.
And even then, the F6F was inferior to either of those two planes in nearly every single catagory.
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04-22-2008, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kool kitty89 | So was I... I was referring to Yamamoto... temporary confusion on my part. 
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04-22-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by syscom3 But the Hellcat didnt go up with as many top notch IJN and IJA pilots like the P38 and F4U pilots had to go against.
| What do you base that on?
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04-22-2008, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by comiso90 What do you base that on? | New Guinie and the Solomons.
The bulk of the Hellcat kills in 1944 were against woefully trained and prepared Japanese aircrews in the Marianas and PI.
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04-22-2008, 09:21 PM
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Country: | Plus the P-38 (and F4U to lesser extent) was there earlier than the Hellcat at a time when many of the toughest and best (along with more average but still well trained and experienced) Japanese pilots were still there.
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05-17-2008, 04:54 PM
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Country: | There are a number of small scale combats involving the hellcat and ace/well trained Japanese pilots. They are the exception rather than the rule, but thy do provide a clue that the Hellcat was not so overwhelmingly superior to the Japanese counterparts as one might assume. The best "lage scale" example I can think of is the Allied counterattack at Phil Sea (6/44). With no mor than 35 fighters remaining, but apparently these being 1942 veterans, the loss rates in the American strikes whilst over the japanese carriers were certainly higher than that. Trouble is, i dont have figures on the numbers of Hellcats shot down in that part of the battle. Total US losses, including those ditched near the US Fleet,amounted to 135 aircraft
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06-22-2008, 05:55 AM
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Country: | I go with th North American P-38 Lightning |
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06-22-2008, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigxiko I go with th North American P-38 Lightning | Not the Lockheed P-51? 
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06-22-2008, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Not the Lockheed P-51?  | That does have a nice ring to it.
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06-22-2008, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigxiko I go with th North American P-38 Lightning | The P-38 was not built by North American. It was built by Lockheed.
The P-51 was built by North American, hense why Flyboy is having a bit of fun with you in his last post...
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06-22-2008, 11:19 AM
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06-25-2008, 06:22 AM
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Country: | Vote F6F. Because this is universal plane.  |
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06-25-2008, 01:18 PM
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Country: | Sorry about that, don't need to mark that much
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