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View Poll Results: Which of the following was the best carrier based torpedo bomber prior to 1942
Nakajima B5N "Kate" 17 54.84%
TBD Devastator 1 3.23%
Fairey Swordfish 11 35.48%
Fieseler Fi 167 2 6.45%
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:23 PM   #1
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Best Pre 1942 Carrier Torpedo Bomber

Heres the four choices.
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Old 04-08-2007, 09:41 PM   #2
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Interesting u broke it down to pre-1942... Would have liked to seen the comparisons between the generations...
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Old 04-08-2007, 10:12 PM   #3
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Les, I figured that 1942 was the year when everyone learned that slow moving torpedo planes were highly vulnerable to AA. Plus as the number of enemy ships decreased, the torpedo bombers had to be able to adapt to new missions.

For me, the "Kate" was the best as it lugged the larger of the torpedo's and performed its mission well.

I will post another poll for 1943-45 after we discuss this one.
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:12 AM   #4
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I'd say the Fairey Swordfish. For a biplane, it did some amazing things in the sky during that time, like sinking the Bismark. That was a big achievement for a supposedly obsolescent aircraft.
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Old 04-09-2007, 05:25 AM   #5
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The Swordfish also sunk the Italian Battleships as well. Being the first carrier attack on Battleships.
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Old 04-09-2007, 06:20 AM   #6
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Based on performance and equipment, it's the Kate. Based on accomplishment, I'd go with the Swordfish, but the Kate is close behind - a good poll!
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Old 04-09-2007, 06:38 AM   #7
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Then why'd u vote for the Devastator then Joe???
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:11 AM   #8
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Got to vote for the Kate.

Who cares about what the Swordfish accomplished. It was not the better of the two aircraft. The Kate was faster, better protected, more maneuverable and able to perform the mission better.

If you wish to talk about accomplishments it is still the Kate. 2 Words....

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Agreed Adler. I would of voted for the Swordfish if the Kate hadn't been in the poll but the Swordfish despite what it accomplished was not the best at this time.
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I hate to say it but I dont really think it was the best at any point of the war.
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Then why'd u vote for the Devastator then Joe???
My mistake! Corrected accordingly....
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Uhuh just admit it, you thought you could get away with it. You sly little fox!
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The B5N1/2 were no better protected than the Fairey Swordfish, defensive armament on both was a single light machine-gun. The Swordfish had a more diverse weapons collection, the 'Kate' could only carry torpedos and bombs in no greater weight than the Swordfish loading. The Swordfish could carry torpedo, bombs, mines and rockets; the latter two being something the 'Kate' never carried.

The Swordfish sank more tonnage than the 'Kate'. The Swordfish III was deployed with the Mk.X ASV radar which was superior to that on any 'Kate'. While the 'Kate' spear-headed Pearl Harbour it wasn't alone in the attack, the Swordfish on the other hand went into Taranto on its own.

The B5N1/2 'Kate' looks more modern but it wasn't any better than the Swordfish.

*edit* The Swordfish actually carried a larger bomb-load than the B5N2. The B5N2 carried a single 1764-lb torpedo or three 250-lb bombs, the Swordfish Mk.I could carry a single 1,610-lb torpedo or a 1,500-lb mine or 1,500-lb bombs (2 500-lb under fuselage and one 250-lb under each wing, or 1 500-lb under fuselage and 1 500-lb under each wing).
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The swordfish was a fabric covered biplane...

That is what I meant by protection.

The Kate was more maneuverable and had better performance and this thread is about Torpedo Bomber so who cares about mines, bombs and rockets.
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The B5N2 had no defensive armour or self-sealing fuel tanks, it was no more survivable than the Swordfish. Range and speed of the B5N2 were superior to the Swordfish, while the Swordfish was more stable at the slower speeds during the torpedo run.
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