Best Stealth Aircraft - Aircraft of World War II

Desert Fox · 08-03-2008, 03:10 AM

There have been few stealth aircraft in service so far, but which has been the best?

Edit: I've got one too many 1's on the Nighthawk

embarrassing

ScOoTeR1992 · 08-03-2008, 03:54 AM

this will get interesting. Uhm is this poll rating A/C that were and in current service. is there any reason why you left out the YF-23 because that bird is pretty stealthy because i'm just wondering

comiso90 · 08-03-2008, 03:54 AM

F-35!

<simon> · 08-03-2008, 05:12 AM

Is the F-35 very stealthy though??

Is is an amazing aircraft and carries the best technology in the world but i didn't think it was particuly stealthy, especially when compared to these other aircraft.

The Raptor is awesome but i had to give it to the Blackbird

Good quiz though!

comiso90 · 08-03-2008, 05:24 AM

More stealthy than the SR-71!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-03-2008, 06:00 AM

Um Desert Fox correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe the SR-71 was ever really a stealth aircraft.

<simon> · 08-03-2008, 06:16 AM

Didn't it have radar absorbent paint? I thought i was designed to be a high altitude stealth recce aircraft.

Thats interesting

What d'you reckon was the best Adler?

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-03-2008, 06:21 AM

Probably the F-22, but honestly I don't know.

marshall · 08-03-2008, 07:51 AM

About the SR-71, some features on the plane were designed to reduce its radar signature but the plane wasn't stealth, it could be seen from hundreds of miles on the air traffic control radar.

I'm not that smart, here's the link:
SR-71 Blackbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 08-03-2008, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall

About the SR-71, some features on the plane were designed to reduce its radar signature but the plane wasn't stealth, it could be seen from hundreds of miles on the air traffic control radar.

I'm not that smart, here's the link:
SR-71 Blackbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Exactly. It was not a stealth aircraft.

ToughOmbre · 08-03-2008, 08:08 AM

The SR-71 was observed many times by the USSR, in fact over 1,000 SAMs were fired at the Blackbird during her career.

Speed and altitude, not stealth, made the SR-71 untouchable.

TO

Lucky13 · 08-03-2008, 08:22 AM

HO-229, because it started the whole thing....

B-17engineer · 08-03-2008, 10:19 AM

I am going with B2

yardbird78 · 08-03-2008, 02:27 PM

Granted, the SR-71 was not even close to 100% stealthy, but it was one of the earliest attempts at that objective. It's RCS was amazingly low for such a large aircraft. The physical shape plus the ironball paint plus ECM made it impossible to determine the exact position, altitude, course and speed of the SR-71. The bad guys knew it was flying over their area, but had to guess at those four parameters, thus it became an unsolveable problem to aim a missile at the correct point in space to shoot it down. Once a SAM is launched, there is a relatively small area of space where it can reach. The SR-71 pilot/RSO determined where the missile was headed and if necessary, just turned away from that space. It requires something like a minute for the SA-2 to reach 80,000 feet. The SR-71 travels 30 miles in that minute, which means the missile had to be aimed 30 miles in front of the airplane. That gives the crew quite a bit of time and space to avoid the missile.

If the vote is for "stealthiest" aircraft, then the SR-71 is definately not the winner. If the vote is for ability to penetrate bad guy airspace with the least chance of getting shot down, the SR-71 wins.

Darwin, 12 year veteran of the Blackbird program

Gnomey · 08-03-2008, 02:42 PM

Very true Darwin.

In the context of the poll I voted for the F-22 although I would say that had the F-35 being up there it would of got my vote.

View Poll Results: Best Stealth Aircraft?
F-1117 Nighthawk	1	4.17%
B2 Stealthbomber	4	16.67%
F-22 Raptor	15	62.50%
SR-71 Blackbird	4	16.67%
Voters: 24. You may not vote on this poll

08-03-2008, 03:10 AM	#1
Desert Fox Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Great Southern Land Posts: 436	Best Stealth Aircraft There have been few stealth aircraft in service so far, but which has been the best? Edit: I've got one too many 1's on the Nighthawk embarrassing __________________ "Courage is doing what you are afraid to do. There can be no courage unless you are scared." - Eddie Rickenbacker Last edited by Desert Fox; 08-03-2008 at 03:14 AM.

08-03-2008, 03:54 AM	#2
ScOoTeR1992 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: right behind you Posts: 382	this will get interesting. Uhm is this poll rating A/C that were and in current service. is there any reason why you left out the YF-23 because that bird is pretty stealthy because i'm just wondering __________________ Pain, Hate, Anger You Cut My Wings And Throw Me Out, Out To The Land My Soul Was Harvested From The wind whipping across your face as your blades whip across the throats of the foe. It makes the blood sing.

08-03-2008, 03:54 AM	#3
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,294	F-35! __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ .

08-03-2008, 05:12 AM	#4
<simon> Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Heyfield, Victoria Posts: 280	Is the F-35 very stealthy though?? Is is an amazing aircraft and carries the best technology in the world but i didn't think it was particuly stealthy, especially when compared to these other aircraft. The Raptor is awesome but i had to give it to the Blackbird Good quiz though! __________________ Control tower to aircraft that just landed - "Bear right, next intersection" Pilot - "Roger, we have him in sight"

08-03-2008, 05:24 AM	#5
comiso90 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: FL Posts: 3,294	More stealthy than the SR-71! __________________ http://www.BOOKSonWAR.com/ .

08-03-2008, 06:00 AM	#6
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Um Desert Fox correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe the SR-71 was ever really a stealth aircraft. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

08-03-2008, 06:16 AM	#7
<simon> Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Heyfield, Victoria Posts: 280	Didn't it have radar absorbent paint? I thought i was designed to be a high altitude stealth recce aircraft. Thats interesting What d'you reckon was the best Adler? __________________ Control tower to aircraft that just landed - "Bear right, next intersection" Pilot - "Roger, we have him in sight"

08-03-2008, 06:21 AM	#8
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	Probably the F-22, but honestly I don't know. __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

08-03-2008, 07:51 AM	#9
marshall Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 121	About the SR-71, some features on the plane were designed to reduce its radar signature but the plane wasn't stealth, it could be seen from hundreds of miles on the air traffic control radar. I'm not that smart, here's the link: SR-71 Blackbird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

08-03-2008, 08:08 AM	#11
ToughOmbre Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Jersey Shore Posts: 3,230	The SR-71 was observed many times by the USSR, in fact over 1,000 SAMs were fired at the Blackbird during her career. Speed and altitude, not stealth, made the SR-71 untouchable. TO __________________ *“Let's get Enterprise* and Hornet turned into the wind."**

08-03-2008, 08:22 AM	#12
Lucky13 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland Posts: 15,139	HO-229, because it started the whole thing.... __________________ JAN "Felicis Tredecim" "I´m going back to the front to relax" "THE BLACK CATS FLIES TONIGHT" "Find your enemy and shoot him down - everything else is unimportant!" "When you're out of F-8's... You're out of fighters!"

08-03-2008, 10:19 AM	#13
B-17engineer Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 5,682	I am going with B2 __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe36UMRkRbk

08-03-2008, 02:27 PM	#14
yardbird78 Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: 40 klicks east of the Gateway Posts: 13	Titanium Wonderbird Granted, the SR-71 was not even close to 100% stealthy, but it was one of the earliest attempts at that objective. It's RCS was amazingly low for such a large aircraft. The physical shape plus the ironball paint plus ECM made it impossible to determine the exact position, altitude, course and speed of the SR-71. The bad guys knew it was flying over their area, but had to guess at those four parameters, thus it became an unsolveable problem to aim a missile at the correct point in space to shoot it down. Once a SAM is launched, there is a relatively small area of space where it can reach. The SR-71 pilot/RSO determined where the missile was headed and if necessary, just turned away from that space. It requires something like a minute for the SA-2 to reach 80,000 feet. The SR-71 travels 30 miles in that minute, which means the missile had to be aimed 30 miles in front of the airplane. That gives the crew quite a bit of time and space to avoid the missile. If the vote is for "stealthiest" aircraft, then the SR-71 is definately not the winner. If the vote is for ability to penetrate bad guy airspace with the least chance of getting shot down, the SR-71 wins. Darwin, 12 year veteran of the Blackbird program __________________ The B-52 and me, we have grown old, gray and overweight together.

08-03-2008, 02:42 PM	#15
Gnomey "World Traveller" Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Royal Deeside/St Andrews, Scotland, UK Posts: 15,218	Very true Darwin. In the context of the poll I voted for the F-22 although I would say that had the F-35 being up there it would of got my vote. __________________ "Success is not Final, Failure is not Fatal, it is the Courage to Continue that Counts" Sir Winston Churchill "To him the People of the World Largely owe the Freedom and Liberties they Enjoy Today" Enscription on Hugh Dowding's (AOC Fighter Command 1936-40) statue in London WW2 Talk: A WW2 Discussion Forum My Photo Collections on Flickr

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