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09-22-2005, 04:54 PM
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#31 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by Glider but the Radar op must have been a little enclosed.
The one I sat in was a bomber so lacked nearly all the electrics of a NF. | That's what I'm talking about - I seen one and thinking about the NF equipment, I think I rather be in a ball turret!
It's funny, I also seen a Canberra and the navigator/ bombardier's station seemed the same way - there was a tunnel where you climbed into the nose, reminded me of climbing into the nose of a missle!
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09-22-2005, 05:00 PM
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| The worst position ever has to be the Nav in a Sea Vixen. To all intents and purposes you don't have any window, bar a small hatch. Not for nothing was it nicknamed the Coal Hole. | |
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09-22-2005, 06:04 PM
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#33 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by Glider The worst position ever has to be the Nav in a Sea Vixen. To all intents and purposes you don't have any window, bar a small hatch. Not for nothing was it nicknamed the Coal Hole. |  Great!
The Skyraider had a pretty dismal radar operator's position as well, at least it had a window! 
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09-23-2005, 08:37 AM
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#34 | | "Shooter"
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09-23-2005, 09:03 AM
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#35 | | IP/Mech THE GREAT GAZOO
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Originally Posted by evangilder Joe, did you ever climb through that narrow tunnel on a B-25 to get to the nose. Man, that is cramped! | Yep! Another hell hole - The P2 neptune has one to go to the back end of the aircraft - Hey, we should start this as a thread! Aircraft with the most confined area! 
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09-23-2005, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by evangilder Joe, did you ever climb through that narrow tunnel on a B-25 to get to the nose. Man, that is cramped! | Yep! Another hell hole - The P2 neptune has one to go to the back end of the aircraft - Hey, we should start this as a thread! Aircraft with the most confined area! | The back seat in an early model P-38 would win. On some they didn't even change the canopy and they sat on the main spar at the same height as the bottom of the pilots seat for a floor.
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09-23-2005, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wmaxt Quote: |
Originally Posted by FLYBOYJ Quote: |
Originally Posted by evangilder Joe, did you ever climb through that narrow tunnel on a B-25 to get to the nose. Man, that is cramped! | Yep! Another hell hole - The P2 neptune has one to go to the back end of the aircraft - Hey, we should start this as a thread! Aircraft with the most confined area! | The back seat in an early model P-38 would win. On some they didn't even change the canopy and they sat on the main spar at the same height as the bottom of the pilots seat for a floor.
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Truly sadistic! 
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09-23-2005, 05:55 PM
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| Well Syscom, and you thought that only the British could be so kinky. Its true when they say you learn something new every day. | |
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09-23-2005, 06:04 PM
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| Dohhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
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09-23-2005, 06:56 PM
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#40 | | He who does not skim
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10-03-2005, 02:57 PM
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| Belive it or not Kelly Johnson rode their many times, in pictures he looks to be around 6ft and 200lbs in his P-38 years.
Does anybody have figures on the F6F and F4Us They flew fairly extensively in the theaters against Japan.
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10-06-2005, 10:31 AM
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Did they give any reasons why they wanted the P61?
It sounded like the mousie was better than the P61.
| I have a book on the P-61 and it stated that a U.S. nightfighter squadron was going to receive the Mosquito because of negative reports on the P-61. A contest was held between the two aircraft and it was shown that the P-61 was more maneuverable.
I also believe that they would prefer U.S. aircraft. With a British aircraft, you would be flying on the wrong side of the sky! 
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10-17-2005, 07:27 PM
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Country:  | The only 2 purpose-built nightfighters were the Beau and the Black Widow, of these the Beau was better.
For night ground attack the P-61 was better but IMO the Mossie was better
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