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08-29-2007, 01:29 PM
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#121 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Shotguns are used by all branches of the US Army for close quarter combat such as what is going on in Iraq.
When we did Air Assaults there was allways a squad member on our aircraft who had a shot gun.
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08-29-2007, 09:19 PM
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#122 | | Senior Member
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Just as a side point is there any point in having restrictions for weapons in war......
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08-30-2007, 08:05 PM
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#123 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Nope because the only people that will follow them are the Western Allies.
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08-31-2007, 01:26 AM
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Country: | thats what i mean the only people that are going to follow them are honest countries and there arn't too many of them around. There will be no incentive to follow 'cause everyone else will have one but you......
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08-31-2007, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet  Nope because the only people that will follow them are the Western Allies. | Agreed Adler. All this lets ban Mines tripe makes me laugh I can just imagine Iran the Taliban ect ect saying lets not produce mines as its a bit naughty. If a IED is not a type of mine whether remote or trip operated then my pricks a bloater. | |
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08-31-2007, 01:48 AM
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#126 | | Senior Member
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08-31-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by lucanus
If you read about Edson's Ridge (aka Raider Ridge) on the Canal, you will see
that those Gyrenes were using 50 cals with water jacketsto defend their pos
and the airfield behind...In the daylight in front of the pos the Japs were in
piles...
Two last things....Has anybody ever noticed they always give the BAR to the
feather-merchant? And did you know that according to the Geneva
Convention it is unlawful (read a BIG NO NO) to use the M2 or any other
HMG against troops?
| of couse our guys loved being taken under fire by German 20mm flak.. | |
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09-01-2007, 08:43 AM
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#128 | | Der Crewchief
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Originally Posted by trackend Agreed Adler. All this lets ban Mines tripe makes me laugh I can just imagine Iran the Taliban ect ect saying lets not produce mines as its a bit naughty. If a IED is not a type of mine whether remote or trip operated then my pricks a bloater. | Basically the only countries that abide by the rules are NATO countries and a few other ones.
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09-08-2007, 04:11 PM
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Country: | In the WWI airwar, wasn't it considered bad show to fire machineguns with incendiary bullets, designed for taking down ballons by bursting them into flames, into enemy aircraft with pilots? I think there was even a rule saying, that if all your gun had was incendiary bullets, you couldn't fire back at an enemy plane, even if he was attacking you. I guess it was because it was even more painful to have a bullet burning your insides as an added cruelty.
In WWII, didn't they stop following this rule? As I understand, a lot of WWII planes used incendiary bullets?
Edit: I found the bullet I was thinking of was the Pomeroy Bullet. They didn't use them in WWII. It sounded like the Browning .50 caliber could use incendiary bullets, and the British Browning .30 caliber, and didn't the German MG 131 use them too?
Well, since it was WWII, something had to get worse, and the planes were also tougher to shoot down.
The Pomeroy Bullet
Updated - Saturday, 9 August, 2003
The Pomeroy Bullet was an explosive machine gun bullet deployed specifically for use against the Zeppelin threat over Britain. The incendiary bullet, developed by New Zealand engineer John Pomeroy (1873-1950) in 1902, was quickly adopted by British defence services as a means of combating the growing German Zeppelin threat in the skies above Britain.
Filled with nitro-glycerine the bullet ignited the hydrogen gas which escaped from the tear in the Zeppelin gas bag created by the bullet's passage. The bullet's effectiveness led to a marked decrease in the number of Zeppelin attacks.
In time Pomeroy was paid some £25,000 in royalties for his invention First World War.com - Encyclopedia - The Pomeroy Bullet
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09-08-2007, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet Nope because the only people that will follow them are the Western Allies. | 
Kinda like today with the ballistic tip bullets in the MiddleEast. Some claim that they are "expanding bullets" when in actuality they are only plastic tipped bullets made so for accuracy and whose performance is not expansion, but rather they fragment because they are fragile match bullets.
War is not politically correct. Even the Germans complained about shotguns in WWI as being inhumane. The US uses them to this day while abiding by the Geneva convention that no terrorist will ever hold dear.
Gun laws are only obeyed by civilized people. And I question why we continue to fight a civilized war with these savages.
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09-09-2007, 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt308
Kinda like today with the ballistic tip bullets in the MiddleEast. Some claim that they are "expanding bullets" when in actuality they are only plastic tipped bullets made so for accuracy and whose performance is not expansion, but rather they fragment because they are fragile match bullets.
War is not politically correct. Even the Germans complained about shotguns in WWI as being inhumane. The US uses them to this day while abiding by the Geneva convention that no terrorist will ever hold dear.
Gun laws are only obeyed by civilized people. And I question why we continue to fight a civilized war with these savages. | A Very Very valid point and one that i think is sadly true....
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09-11-2007, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by drgondog The only feature I didn't care for on the Thompson was tendency to 'ride up' in fully automatic fire - but I learned to fire short bursts and was able to control it just fine. | That is why they addded a Cutts compensator on the M1 variant.
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09-13-2007, 01:28 PM
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09-16-2007, 02:43 AM
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09-17-2007, 03:12 PM
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#135 | | Senior Member
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Country: | All of those niceties that made the Thompson such a work of art were scrapped because of expediency, too expensive or no military utility.
- Cutts compensator
- 50rd drum mag
- Cooling fins
- Adjustable sights
Too bad you can't buy a semi-auto version to plink around with that doesn't have the short barrel on it. You can, but here in the US you have to have a Class III license and the 16" barrel is a visual monstrosity.
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