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View Poll Results: Which Series of Craft Wins the Fight.... Bf-109 or the Spitfire???
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Old 06-11-2006, 06:26 PM   #136
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Wow that would have been pretty cool. got any more photos?
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Old 06-11-2006, 06:40 PM   #137
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Wow that would have been pretty cool. got any more photos?
yeah i kinda started my own thread
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:09 PM   #138
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The Spitfire did not win The BOB, the Hurricane did....
The hurricane did not won the BOB allone, every aircraft of that time has done something for victory min BOB...
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That has been discussed many times and the general consensus here is that the Hurricane is the true hero of the BoB. The real question to ask though is, could the Hurricane have done it without the Spitfire.
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Old 06-12-2006, 06:38 PM   #140
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The hurricane did not won the BOB allone, every aircraft of that time has done something for victory min BOB...
U arent actually trying to teach me something, are u meatball??? I know more about the Battle of Britian than u do about ur own balls... U said the Spitfire won the BOB and I corrected u... The Spitfire alone in the numbers available would have lost the BOB....
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Old 06-12-2006, 07:12 PM   #141
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fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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"ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life"
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Old 06-13-2006, 03:17 AM   #142
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and the hurricane lays claim to about 80% of all jerry aircraft downed due to all causes in the battle not bad going, but could the hurricane have done it without the spit? doubtful, depends how many extra hurricanes there were..........
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Hurricane claims between June and October 1940 are for 1593
Spitfire claims between June and October 1940 are for 1117 confirmed

Source; "The Battle of Britain" by John Lake

So the ratio of claims is around 60:40 Hurricanes to Spitfires.
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The only reason I think the Hurricane could not do it without the Spit is the fact that lets face it the Spit was the better aircraft and while the Spit was taking on the 109s the Hurricanes could move in and get the slower more vulnerable bombers. They were a team and did it exceptionally well together.
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The only reason I think the Hurricane could not do it without the Spit is the fact that lets face it the Spit was the better aircraft and while the Spit was taking on the 109s the Hurricanes could move in and get the slower more vulnerable bombers. They were a team and did it exceptionally well together.
Agreed, I saw a program on the Battle of Britain where Alex Kershaw (Spitfire test pilot) said that "The Spitfire could of won the Battle of Britain without the Hurricane but the Hurricane couldn't of won it without the Spitfire". Even so the Hurricane was the unsung hero of the Battle of Britain.
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That quote sounds like a very biased opinion Gnomey....
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Depends on how many Spitfires you had. With the ammount of Spits that they had, and no Hurricanes the Spits would not have held on for very long.
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Yes undoubtablly it is biased.

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Depends on how many Spitfires you had. With the ammount of Spits that they had, and no Hurricanes the Spits would not have held on for very long.
True with the number of Spits they had it was not possible however had they had similar numbers as they had of both types it is probably an accurate statement although with Hurricanes the British would still of inflicted substantial loses on the Luftwaffe.
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well the hurricane wasn't a complete lemon, many -109s fell foul to the Hurricane's guns, spits weren't always there to save the day but i agree, with the same number of spits as there were hurricanes the battle would still turn out the same.........
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