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Bf-109 vs. Spitfire....

Polls Discuss Bf-109 vs. Spitfire.... in the World War II - Aviation forums; Dont take me wrong I am not saying the Hurricane was a lemon. It was a great aircraft. However the ...

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    Dont take me wrong I am not saying the Hurricane was a lemon. It was a great aircraft. However the Bf-109 was superior to the Hurricane in almost every catagory. Did 109s fall to Hurricanes though? Ofcourse.



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    would you know why so many 109s fell to Hurricanes?


    "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories."
    - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"



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    Why do any aircraft get shot down by others? Think about your question.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    I meant the main reason? pilot skill? position?


    "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories."
    - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"



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    Probably the fact that the British radar would vector them to the site of the Germans and they could be waiting to pounce them. Most Bf-109s fell to Spitfires though and not Hurricanes.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    That's a silly question, looma. It's purely situational. The Bf-109s could have been bounced, or the German pilot might have been tricked into a turning fight. There's countless reasons.
    "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

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    My thoughts exactly.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    Well, hence the name, Spitfire V wins. For sentimental values.
    'Once lead this people into war and they'll forget there ever was such a thing as tolerance. To fight you must be brutal and ruthless, and the spirit of ruthless brutality will enter into the very fiber of our national life, infecting Congress, the courts, the policeman on the beat, the man in the street. Conformity would be the only virtue and every man who refused to conform would have to pay the penalty.' - President Wilson

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    Well if we are going for sentimental reasons than the Bf-109.


    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    Could a Hurri really out-turn an Me?

    The Hurri could take punishment and some had armour field-upgrades.

    I also think the engine was tougher?

    Plus it was fighting on home turf...


    I take it we're discussing the Spit MkI/II and the Emil?

    Well in that case I'd put the two equal, depending on pilot choice.

    The Me was better @ high alt, the Spit @ lower. The Me could choose the venue, but it was (on Goerings orders) at the Spits best level.

    For me, it would depend on the day, but if I weren't allowed the hub cannon on the Emil, then it'd probably always be the Spit.
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    My grandfather (still living) was a bomber pilot. He wasn't a hero or anything but he did his job the best he could and fought on.
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    fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpitfireKing
    My grandfather (still living) was a bomber pilot. He wasn't a hero or anything but he did his job the best he could and fought on.
    Mine too. Same on all counts. He flew Lancs and Halifaxes.

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    Schwarz, the Hurricane could out-turn the Spitfire which could out-turn the Bf-109E. The Hurricane was one of the best low-speed turners of the war, but as with all low-speed turners it was too slow to be around at the end of the war.
    "When you go home tomorrow, don't expect anyone to know what you have been through. Even if they did know, most people probably wouldn't care anyway. Some of you may get the medals you deserve, many more of you will not. But remember this, all of you are now members of the front-line club, and that is the most exclusive club in the world." - Lt. Col. Matthew Maer CO 1st Battalion, the Princess of Wale's Royal Regiment. Camp Abu Naji, Oct. 2004

    To those in that club.

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    but not the same case with the 109F right?


    "The German Luftwaffe always fought without any reserves. This is also the reason why we have pilots with extremely high numbers of victories."
    - General der Jagdflieger Adolf Galland"



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