Which countries would you like to see...

GermansRGeniuses · 01-09-2005, 07:02 PM

in a best fighter pilot thread?

Feel free to leave suggestions, but only stating which countries is fine...

(We'll see which country has the most votes and thus the most choices...)

Medvedya · 01-09-2005, 07:04 PM

Urmm, you would have to have German and Russian aces in there wouldn't you?

It would be a bit like leaving Brazil out of a 'Greatest Footballing Nations' poll.

GermansRGeniuses · 01-09-2005, 09:44 PM

Like I said, the country that gets the most votes gets the most choices, thus the reason for the obvious being up...

Darkstalker · 01-09-2005, 10:48 PM

I think Germany will be on the lead

kiwimac · 01-09-2005, 11:47 PM

What! No Albanian option??????

Kiwimac

GermansRGeniuses · 01-10-2005, 06:11 PM

That's why Others is there...

Vote for it, leave a suggestion for country and pilot, and we'll see what we can do!

Nonskimmer · 01-10-2005, 06:16 PM

I'm assuming Gross Britanien includes the Commonwealth countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc, etc...) ?

GermansRGeniuses · 01-10-2005, 06:19 PM

Hmm...

Seeing as how they WERE part of the U.K. at some time, I'd have to say yes...

Make sure you leave a suggestion, or else it will be assumed you mean England...

evangilder · 01-10-2005, 06:21 PM

I would say US, UK, Japan and Germany. Those are the main ones I think of. I know there were probably aces from other places like Russia and Italy, I just don't know much about them.

lesofprimus · 01-10-2005, 09:10 PM

While this is great, it really doesnt affect the greatest ace poll... People who deserve to be on this list are..... The most eligible....

There are not alot of people that know alot about aces... I consider myself one who knows a good deal.... There are a few others that may know more, but the majority know alot about planes and little on pilots....

I can only list 15 pilots... It makes it very difficult.... Just because a certain pilot is ur favorite, doesnt make him the Greatest..... REMEMBER THIS.....

Educate yourselves with the names on the poll.... Do a search on the name... Everyone of them will have 25 links for them.... Read alittle if ur unsure..... Then make ur vote.....

Its interesting to see that Hans-Joachim was almost tied with Herr Hartmann..... I think if more people knew about certain people on this poll, the tallies would vary more....

Im going to make the new poll with the listed pilots in the other thread... I think I have everyone covered one way or another.....

Nonskimmer · 01-10-2005, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GermansRGeniuses

Seeing as how they WERE part of the U.K. at some time, I'd have to say yes...

Never part of the UK, part of the Commonwealth.

That is, countries that were dominions of the British Empire but were self-governing. The United Kingdom refers to Great Britain (England, Scotland, and Wales) plus Northern Ireland.

And that's my sticky point for the evening!

Nonskimmer · 01-10-2005, 09:23 PM

Les, if you want to take George Beurling off the list, go ahead. Most people here probably don't have a clue who he was anyway, and if it's just going to make it that much more confusing then it's probably not worth it.

I only suggested the name because he was Canada's leading ace, but how many Canadians generally post here anyway? A few. Like you say, there were many more deserving pilots who should probably be listed, and just because someone is your favorite it doesn't necessarily make him the best.

lesofprimus · 01-10-2005, 09:32 PM

OK...... Thats cool, glad u see it my kinda way....

GermansRGeniuses · 01-10-2005, 09:34 PM

How about this?

Jochen
Bader
Galland
Bong
Kozhedub
Hartmann
McGuire
Gabby
Notwony
Sakai
Eino Juutilainen (94.5 kills, 34 in Buffalos)
Beurling
Pips
Molders
Wolfgang Falck (Or some other NF pilot, I don't know many...)

How about that?

evangilder · 01-10-2005, 09:37 PM

You make a good point, Les. I know alot about airplanes, but my knowledge of aces is pretty weak. Sure, I know names like Dick Bong, mcGuire, McCampbell and a few others. I had heard of guys like Molders ,sp?. and Galland. It was only since I have been here that I have heard more of the other aces. I think having the names in the polls gives us all an opportunity to learn more.

Funny how alot of emphasis goes into fighter pilots, which is deserved, don;t get me wrong. But rarely do people hear names of bomber crews, outside of the pilots. Everyone knows names like Paul Tibbetts and Jimmy Doolittle. Sorry, just an observation.

I would be curious if there are known German bomber crews that survived a ton of missions. Did they stay together as a cohesive crew like the Americans mostly did? Sorry I am off topic.