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View Poll Results: Which of the following did you like
F4U 171 45.12%
F4F3 18 4.75%
F4F4 20 5.28%
F6F5 57 15.04%
Dautless 30 7.92%
Avenger 27 7.12%
Other 56 14.78%
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:40 PM   #91
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The F4U Corsair carried out some sterling work once the problems were worked out. It was a great aircraft once the pilot became skilled in using the aircraft due to the side slip on the plane. It has a tendency to slip sideways because of the wings, at least it does in FS2002 and it did in MS Combat Ace. Because of this you are mostly doing a lot of correction of flight etc. to avoid rolling.
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Old 11-14-2005, 10:55 AM   #92
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The Corsair was a bitch to land on a deck. First of all, because of the height of the undercarrige, the Oleo struts tended to make the plane bounce like a rubber ball when landing on a carrier. Also there were some instances, if the struts were adjusted too stiff, the impact of landing could hurt the pilot. Also because of the length of the nose the pilot had to approach the deck from an angle and then at the last moment straighten out and land. In top of that it was a big bird, so big that it could not be hung from the storage hooks in hangars until the Midways came along.

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Old 11-17-2005, 11:59 PM   #93
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Voted SBD dauntless, something about those inverted gull wings, the bombs slung underneath looking so menacing, and just knowing the look on the faces of the japanese men aboard the four carriers at midway that felt theyre wrath warms my heart.
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Old 11-19-2005, 06:26 AM   #94
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the avenget looks much meaner........

and adler, i pitty only the fools that DON'T vote avenger, if you'd have voted avenger i wouldn't pitty you, but unfortunately for you, you must now feel the wrath of my pitty......
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:40 PM   #95
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Pitty? WTF?
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Old 11-19-2005, 02:41 PM   #96
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Haha - you arse, lanc. No blamin' that on a typo 'cos you wrote it three times. It's PITY, you tart.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:20 PM   #97
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I have to give it to the hellcat.

Out of the 6,477 confirmed victories by US navy carrier based pilots, the F6F (which only entered the fray on 31 August 1943) gained 4,947
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One thing needs to be noted although the F4U did serve aboard carriers towards the end of the war it was primarly land based therefore I must go with the hellcat on this one, and if you look at the kill ratio in air to air combat it far excedes the ratio of the corsair if I am not mistaken.
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The Corsair was a bitch to land on a deck. First of all, because of the height of the undercarrige, the Oleo struts tended to make the plane bounce like a rubber ball when landing on a carrier. Also there were some instances, if the struts were adjusted too stiff, the impact of landing could hurt the pilot. Also because of the length of the nose the pilot had to approach the deck from an angle and then at the last moment straighten out and land. In top of that it was a big bird, so big that it could not be hung from the storage hooks in hangars until the Midways came along.

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Most of the teething problems of the F4U were solved by late 1943 and the Navy decided the Corsair was superior to the Hellcat as a carrier a/c and carriers were to be equipped with Corsairs as soon as was practicable. By that time the Navy had also determined that the Corsair was as good a dive bomber as the SBD because the landing gear could be used as dive brakes and it was a steady diving beast.
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:41 PM   #101
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Voted the Wildcat. I saw this plane in a museum in Palm Springs. Small stubby fighter. When I saw the bicycle chain for moving the gear I was sold Simple and effective! Must have been hard for the pilots though, taking off from a deck, cranking up the gear while still flying low and slow. Something to admire.
The pland stood it's ground against the Zero, quite an accomplishment.
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Think that was a pain? What about the Wildcat's 90 gallon external tank that had to be hand pumped until dry. Now that would be a pain in the @ss.
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I Ike the chubby Hellcat, but the Corsair had the power.
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Think that was a pain? What about the Wildcat's 90 gallon external tank that had to be hand pumped until dry. Now that would be a pain in the @ss.

Anyway, to it's pilots!
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Helldiver was designed to replace it; never could. Probably not the favorite of the crewmen on Kaga, Akagi, Hiryu and Soryu.
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