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11-22-2004, 05:04 PM
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#316 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | There not as easy as a regular fixed wing aircraft. The hardest part is the hovering thing.
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11-23-2004, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus Apart from these 62 victories, Ivan Kozhedub also was forced to shoot down two U.S. P-51 Mustangs that mistakenly attacked his La-7 on one occasion. Both these P-51 losses have been verified by USAAF sources. | So he claims. It's just as likely he bounced them thinking they were 109's, killed them before they knew they were under attack, and then they had to come up with a cover story to explain it. I've heard that at least one of those planes is confirmed not to have fired any shots.
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11-23-2004, 11:12 AM
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#318 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country:  | Does shooting down a friendly count as a minus kill?
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11-23-2004, 11:29 AM
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#319 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I dont think it counts at all except maybe for shame.
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11-23-2004, 11:37 AM
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#320 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Country: | Are there any accounts of bomber formations accidentally taking out a friendly whilst firing at enemy planes? I get the impression this could have happened quite a lot.
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11-23-2004, 12:15 PM
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#321 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Yes that has happened as far as I know. I have read books that talk about the 8th Airforce and they have talked about it.
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11-23-2004, 01:19 PM
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#322 | | Master of Ewes
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The hardest part is the hovering thing.
| it's laughably simple to put a harrier into hover, there's a rather large lever next to the throttle, simply give yourself a bit more throttle (at the temperatures encountered in the falklands they sometimes needed full throtle just to hover), and to hover simply push one lever and it'll move all the nozzels together.............
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11-23-2004, 01:22 PM
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#323 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I was saying it was hard to hover a helicopter. Flying a Blackhawk is really easy getting it to stay in one place is rather hard, the tail wants to dip and go left.
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11-23-2004, 01:28 PM
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#324 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | sorry my mistake...............
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11-23-2004, 01:32 PM
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#325 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Some aircraft like the Apache have hover hold so the pilot does not even have to hove thing bird.
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11-23-2004, 01:37 PM
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#326 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes i've found that feature very usefull when using the apache on a helicopter gunship simulator game i have...............
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11-23-2004, 01:44 PM
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#327 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | If I may ask what is your aviation experience you have a vast knowledge of aircraft and I was just wondering if any of it comes from actual experience.
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11-23-2004, 01:51 PM
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#328 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i'm 14, i've never even been in a real plane..................
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11-23-2004, 01:54 PM
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#329 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | Oh okay. Ive been around planes my whole life. Fly in them for the military and also for fun. Well it is great that someone your age has the knowlegde that u do.
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11-23-2004, 01:59 PM
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#330 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | shame none of me school mate agree.....................
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