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12-12-2004, 08:37 AM
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#451 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | i'm a little supprised no-one's mentioned jonnie johnson??
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12-12-2004, 09:04 AM
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#452 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country:  | Im not.. While a great pilot in his own right, he was nowhere near the Greatest of All Time...
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12-12-2004, 09:06 AM
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#453 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | worth a mention though, all of his 38 kills were against single engined fighters, making him the highest scoring ace of WWII, and in 515 sorties, he was holed only once...............
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12-12-2004, 09:13 AM
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#454 | | Minister of Whoopass
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making him the highest scoring ace of WWII
| Ummmmmm I think u made a mistake there.....
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12-12-2004, 09:18 AM
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#455 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | if you make a list of the aces with their kills broken down to plane types, he has the highest number of single engined fighter kills with 100% of hill kills coming from single engined planes, that's how it was done on one show, i know he doesn't have the highest number of kills, not by a long shot, but he has the kills where it counts............
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12-12-2004, 09:25 AM
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#456 | | Der Crewchief
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Country:  | Yeah but others like Hartmann, Marsielle, Barr and even other allied aces had shot down more single engine aircraft. I dont think you can go by percentage. A kill is a kill.
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12-12-2004, 09:27 AM
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#457 | | Master of Ewes
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Yeah but others like Hartmann, Marsielle, Barr and even other allied aces had shot down more single engine aircraft
| not according to the stats, anywho, i've got some logs to shift and some new British Mk.4 assult boots to try out, see you soon......
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12-12-2004, 09:32 AM
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#458 | | Der Crewchief
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12-12-2004, 09:32 AM
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#459 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | So ur saying that Erich Hartmann scrored less than 38 Fighter Kills???
Marseille had more that 38 fighters destroyed.... So did Kozhedub....
Gerhard Barkhorn shot down over 40 Fighters from 5/16/42 - 7/22/42....
Dont know where u got that info... Unless ur referring to the fact that 100% of his kills were fighters... Quote: |
all of his 38 kills were against single engined fighters, making him the highest scoring ace of WWII.
| That is not a requirement when it comes to highest scoring ace... U know better than that Lanc... Did u just wake up or something??? Not thinking level???
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12-12-2004, 09:35 AM
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#460 | | Der Crewchief
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Country: | I did not say that. I am argueing is post too.
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12-12-2004, 09:41 AM
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#461 | | Minister of Whoopass
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not according to the stats
| Ummmm... I got the stats from Luftwaffe.cz on Barkhorn...... In 2 months he shot down more fighters that Johnsons whole career.....
Where did u get ur stats?????
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12-12-2004, 10:01 AM
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#462 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | there not so much stats but several stories/mentions of him say that as all his 38 kills were against single engined fighters he was the highest scoring ace of the war............
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12-12-2004, 10:05 AM
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#463 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Yeah but others like Hartmann, Marsielle, Barr and even other allied aces had shot down more single engine aircraft
| not according to the stats, anywho, i've got some logs to shift and some new British Mk.4 assult boots to try out, see you soon...... | Just cos 100% kills were on single engined aircraft, it doesnt mean he shot the most single engined planes down. If some guy only got one kill, and it was a single engined plane, that also makes him have 100% of his kills on a single engined plane. Does that make him the best pilot in that area? No. The highest ratio of shooting down single engined planes maybe, but not highest number.
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12-12-2004, 10:08 AM
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#464 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i said i realise he wasn't the highest scoring..................
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12-12-2004, 10:10 AM
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#465 | | Konfused with a 'K'
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Josef Priller (Pips' fave!) was also pretty good. Higest Spit killer of the war, shot down 68 (I think it was 6 
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