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| Ivan Kozhedub |     | 29 | 11.93% |
| Erich Hartmann |    | 175 | 72.02% |
| Constantine Cantacuzine |    | 12 | 4.94% |
| Richard Bong |    | 27 | 11.11% |
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08-03-2004, 03:51 PM
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| the old Sage   Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere
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| great pic Kiwimac. I've got one pic of Hartmann's wingman so I will try and find it. think he is sitting upright out of the cockpit with a profile of his face looking into the wind.............I'll do a little bio on him once I find his pic. E
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08-03-2004, 06:01 PM
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  | I have a model of his plane when he had that painted on. =3 Great picture.
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08-03-2004, 11:13 PM
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| Minister of Whoopass  Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Great Pic Kiwi... Now if we can find one with the 300 in wreath we'd be n Bidness... What would u can those markings... Im having trouble findin somethin on search... Kill markings???
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08-03-2004, 11:15 PM
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| the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere
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| they would be called victory markings on the rudder. in fact there is an old book OOP on German rudder markings... produced by Schiffer pubs on the east coast of the good ol USof A
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08-03-2004, 11:22 PM
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| Heres a statue of Marseille and his rudder... |
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08-03-2004, 11:26 PM
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| Heres one at 50... |
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08-03-2004, 11:49 PM
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| Hers a good shot for U Brits...
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08-04-2004, 12:19 AM
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That's no La-7... (In the top profile) That there is an La-5 (F? Fn?)! You can tell because the cockpit on the La-7 fairs straight into the rear fuselage, unlike in the La-5's, where it was humped... | |
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08-04-2004, 12:23 AM
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| that was the file name i downloaded... I agree it is a -5 not a -7...
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08-04-2004, 12:29 AM
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| And for the record, I think that, while 352 kills is unreal, Hartmanns opposition was so sub par, and his luck so very high, that its not a great way to detemine this... Kozhedub had to fly against some serious opposition... In an inferior aircraft... If any German pilot should get it, it would have to be in the WTO... The competition was so much more balanced... Who were the leading WTO Germans???
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08-04-2004, 12:34 AM
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| GERMANY * means dead Erich Hartmann 352 Gerhard Barkhorn 301 Guenther Rall 275 * Otto Kittel 267 Theodore Weissenberger 252 Wilhelm Batz 237 Erich Rudorffer 222 Heinrich Bar 221 * Heinrich Ehrler 220 Hermann Graf 212 Johannes Weise 208 * Hans Philip 206 Walter Schuck 206 Anton Hafner 204 Helmut Lipfert 203 Walter Krupinski 197 Anton Hackl 192 * Maximilian Stotz 189 Joachim Brendel 189 * Joachim Kirschner 188 Kurt Hans Friedrich Brandle 180 Guenther Josten 178 Johannes Steinhoff 178-176 *Albin Wolf 176 Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert 174 Gunther Schack 174 *Emil Lang 173 *Heinz Johnny Schmidt 173 *Horst Adameit 166 *Wolf-Dietrich Wilke 162 *Hans-Joachim Marseille 158 *Heinrich Sturm 158 Gerhard Thyben 157 *Hans Beiswenger 152 Peter Duettmann 152 Gordon Gollob 150
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08-04-2004, 12:35 AM
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| And what about ratio of Fighter kills to bomber kills???
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08-04-2004, 01:19 AM
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| Well, shooting down a Battle or Blenhim wasn't that hard. But knocking a B-17 or B-24 out of a combat box was a very risky proposition.
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08-04-2004, 01:21 AM
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| I agree...
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08-04-2004, 01:49 AM
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| the old Sage Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere
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| before I konk off for a Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz and an early start to work, what are U guys/gals interested in concerning bomber kills by Luftwaffe fighters ? names and numbers of victories or ? this is a subject I am well acquainted with for the last 35 + years E ~
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