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View Poll Results: The Best Ace???
Ivan Kozhedub 29 11.93%
Erich Hartmann 175 72.02%
Constantine Cantacuzine 12 4.94%
Richard Bong 27 11.11%
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:53 AM   #61
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Erich...

Victories would be great...

Heres a question 4 ya... More skill as an ace to shoot down a bomber or fighter??? Which means more to the question "Greatest Fighter Pilot"???
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That would depend on several things including the skill of the pilot/crew, type of fighter/bomber, and the general situation.
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:05 AM   #63
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Historically... The leading Aces... Some had 200 kils, but only 32 fighters... SOme had 180, iwth only 20 bombers...

WHos the better fighter pilot???

Historically...
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Only 8 men shot down over 100 aircraft in the WTO...

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Rank / First Name / Last Name / West / East / Total

1
Hptm. Hans-Joachim "Jochen" Marseille 158 0 158


2
Obstlt. Heinz "Pritzel" Bär 125 96 221
3
Obstlt. Kurt Bühligen 112 0 112

4
GenLt. Adolf "Dolfo" Galland 104 0 104

5
Maj. Joachim Müncheberg 102 33 135

6
Maj. Werner Schroer 102 12 114

7
Obstlt. Egon Mayer 102 0 102

8
Obst. Josef "Pips" Priller 101 0 101
9
Obst. Gustav Rödel 96 (97) 2 (1) 98

10
Hptm. Josef "Sepp" Wurmheller 93 9 102

11
Maj. Siegfried "Wurm" Schnell 90 3 93

12
Maj. Erich Rudorffer 86 138 224

13
Obst. Walter Oesau 73 44 117

14
Hptm. Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert 71 103 174

15
Hptm. Siegfried Lemke 70 0 70

16
Oblt. Adolf "Addi" Glunz 69 3 72

17
Maj. Werner "Vati" Mölders 68 33 101

18
Maj. Georg-Peter Eder 68 10 78

19
Maj. Hans "Assi" Hahn 66 42 108

20
Maj. Anton "Toni" Hackl 61 131 192

21
Maj. Gerhard Homuth 61 2 63

22
Oblt. Herbert Rollwage 60+ 11 85~

23
Maj. Gerhard Michalski 59 14 73

24
Lt. Hans-Arnold "Fiffi" Stahlschmidt 59 0 59

25
Maj. Klaus Mietusch 57 15 72

26
Obst. Herbert Ihlefeld 56 67 123

27
Oblt. Günther Seeger 56 0 56

28
Maj. Helmut Wick 56 0 56

29
Oblt. Karl-Heinz Bendert 55 0 55

30
Maj. Wilhelm-Ferdinand "Wutz" Galland 54 (55) 0 54 (55)
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where do you get all these lists??
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Mainly from my notebook, which i have been adding to since i was 12 or 13... 3 inches thick now...
Some from miscellaneous web sites with references...
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wow, and how old are you now??
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i take it you haven't had the same notebook for the whole time??
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No.. Right now its all combined and seperated into sections in a large looseleaf binder....
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sounds heavy............
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yes it is as a matter of fact... I also do drawings of aircraft as well.. Pretty decent... Ill try and scan one....
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One more.. I have more if u want.... Lemme know ill put more up...
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I prefer to do sketches of my own designs for WWII bombers and fighters.
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