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| Ivan Kozhedub |     | 29 | 11.93% |
| Erich Hartmann |    | 175 | 72.02% |
| Constantine Cantacuzine |    | 12 | 4.94% |
| Richard Bong |    | 27 | 11.11% |
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08-04-2004, 01:53 AM
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| Minister of Whoopass   Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Erich... Victories would be great... Heres a question 4 ya... More skill as an ace to shoot down a bomber or fighter??? Which means more to the question "Greatest Fighter Pilot"???
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08-04-2004, 01:57 AM
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| That would depend on several things including the skill of the pilot/crew, type of fighter/bomber, and the general situation.
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08-04-2004, 02:05 AM
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| Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Historically... The leading Aces... Some had 200 kils, but only 32 fighters... SOme had 180, iwth only 20 bombers... WHos the better fighter pilot??? Historically...
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08-04-2004, 02:01 PM
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| Only 8 men shot down over 100 aircraft in the WTO... List Rank / First Name / Last Name / West / East / Total 1 Hptm. Hans-Joachim "Jochen" Marseille 158 0 158 2 Obstlt. Heinz "Pritzel" Bär 125 96 221 3 Obstlt. Kurt Bühligen 112 0 112 4 GenLt. Adolf "Dolfo" Galland 104 0 104 5 Maj. Joachim Müncheberg 102 33 135 6 Maj. Werner Schroer 102 12 114 7 Obstlt. Egon Mayer 102 0 102 8 Obst. Josef "Pips" Priller 101 0 101 9 Obst. Gustav Rödel 96 (97) 2 (1) 98 10 Hptm. Josef "Sepp" Wurmheller 93 9 102 11 Maj. Siegfried "Wurm" Schnell 90 3 93 12 Maj. Erich Rudorffer 86 138 224 13 Obst. Walter Oesau 73 44 117 14 Hptm. Ernst-Wilhelm Reinert 71 103 174 15 Hptm. Siegfried Lemke 70 0 70 16 Oblt. Adolf "Addi" Glunz 69 3 72 17 Maj. Werner "Vati" Mölders 68 33 101 18 Maj. Georg-Peter Eder 68 10 78 19 Maj. Hans "Assi" Hahn 66 42 108 20 Maj. Anton "Toni" Hackl 61 131 192 21 Maj. Gerhard Homuth 61 2 63 22 Oblt. Herbert Rollwage 60+ 11 85~ 23 Maj. Gerhard Michalski 59 14 73 24 Lt. Hans-Arnold "Fiffi" Stahlschmidt 59 0 59 25 Maj. Klaus Mietusch 57 15 72 26 Obst. Herbert Ihlefeld 56 67 123 27 Oblt. Günther Seeger 56 0 56 28 Maj. Helmut Wick 56 0 56 29 Oblt. Karl-Heinz Bendert 55 0 55 30 Maj. Wilhelm-Ferdinand "Wutz" Galland 54 (55) 0 54 (55)
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08-04-2004, 02:32 PM
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 | where do you get all these lists??
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08-04-2004, 02:38 PM
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| Mainly from my notebook, which i have been adding to since i was 12 or 13... 3 inches thick now... Some from miscellaneous web sites with references...
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08-04-2004, 02:46 PM
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| wow, and how old are you now??
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08-04-2004, 02:46 PM
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08-04-2004, 02:59 PM
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| i take it you haven't had the same notebook for the whole time??
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08-04-2004, 03:23 PM
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| No.. Right now its all combined and seperated into sections in a large looseleaf binder....
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08-04-2004, 03:27 PM
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| sounds heavy............
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08-04-2004, 03:33 PM
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| yes it is as a matter of fact... I also do drawings of aircraft as well.. Pretty decent... Ill try and scan one....
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08-04-2004, 03:40 PM
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| Minister of Whoopass Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Heres one.... |
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08-04-2004, 03:44 PM
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| One more.. I have more if u want.... Lemme know ill put more up... |
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08-05-2004, 12:36 AM
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| I prefer to do sketches of my own designs for WWII bombers and fighters.
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