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08-11-2004, 12:14 PM
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#121 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | we just said that nowadays air forces look for many different roles, just look at the tornado....................
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08-11-2004, 12:17 PM
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#122 | | Senior Member
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Country: | And no one ever denied that. So why is it being dragged on!?! I'd rather not look at the Tornado, it's crap.
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08-11-2004, 12:23 PM
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#123 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | i like it......................
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08-11-2004, 12:31 PM
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Country: | It's crap. What kind of aircraft needs re-heat to get off the ground!?! I'll tell you, the Tornado.
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08-11-2004, 12:34 PM
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#125 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | that's the italian part of the design.....................
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08-11-2004, 12:35 PM
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#126 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I see you've noticed the failings in the Tornado then. 
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08-11-2004, 12:36 PM
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#127 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | yes, part of it was designed by the italians.....................
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08-11-2004, 12:39 PM
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Country: | I know, but that's not the only reason it's crap. I have to say most of the reason though.
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08-11-2004, 01:03 PM
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#129 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: |  i don't actually think the engines are italain though.....................
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08-11-2004, 01:10 PM
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#130 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Turbo-Union Mk.101 in RAF GR.1. Italy only had 15% of the production.
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08-11-2004, 01:12 PM
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#131 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | and suprise suprise, they're the parts that don't work  ...................
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08-11-2004, 04:58 PM
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#132 | | Senior Member
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Country: | There's no lacking parts exactly, the parts just don't go together. The way it is fitted, must be wrong. But this is on the originals, I hope at least on these newest versions they've sorted out most of the problems.
The fact that RAF pilots are not allowed by regulation to take off dry because it is unsafe could be anything. It's too heavy, it's engines can't take the weight. But the thing is it is a fast aircraft...
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08-11-2004, 10:10 PM
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#133 | | Senior Member
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| Actually, the AMX is quite good and it was a cooperative venture between Italy and Brasil. | |
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08-12-2004, 04:34 AM
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#134 | | Senior Member
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Country: | ...why do I find that hard to believe? The Tornado is still crap.
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08-12-2004, 09:37 AM
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#135 | | Senior Member
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| Well, look at it as a modern '262 in the take-off department, its engines simply don't have enough power...
It is quite fast, however, and looks very nice. | |
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