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| View Poll Results: The Greatest Fighter Pilot of WWII.......... | |||
| Ivan Kozhedub, 62 Kills | | 104 | 7.72% |
| Alexandr Pokryshkin, 59 Kills | | 46 | 3.41% |
| Hans-Joachim Marseille, 158 Kills | | 194 | 14.40% |
| Erich Hartmann, 352 Kills | | 304 | 22.57% |
| Adolf Galland, 104 Kills | | 83 | 6.16% |
| Heinz Bar, 221 Kills | | 136 | 10.10% |
| Walter Nowotny, 259 Kills | | 75 | 5.57% |
| Josef Priller, 101 Kills | | 40 | 2.97% |
| Dick Bong, 40 Kills | | 47 | 3.49% |
| David McCampbell, 34 Kills | | 35 | 2.60% |
| Hiroyoshi Nishizawa, 87 Kills | | 67 | 4.97% |
| Saburo Sakai, 64 Kills | | 27 | 2.00% |
| Marmaduke St. John Pattle, 62 Kills | | 96 | 7.13% |
| Johnnie Johnson, 38 Kills | | 53 | 3.93% |
| Thomas McGuire, 38 Kills | | 40 | 2.97% |
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| | #241 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montrose, Colorado
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| Your list is impressive But I believe Joe Foss ought to make the list. He made a lot of chicken salad out of chicken feathers. |
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| | #242 |
| Minister of Whoopass ![]() Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Joe Foss was on the previous polls that eventually led to this one.... Foss got ZERO votes...
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| | #243 |
| Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado.
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| Erich Hartmann i might as well go with.
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| | #244 |
| Minister of Whoopass ![]() Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| WTF is the matter with u kid??? In one thread u said he wasnt the best, then u state the exact opposite here...
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| Minister of Whoopass ![]() Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| | #246 |
| the old Sage ![]() Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere
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| as stated for obvious reasons in earlier threads Herr Hartmann was not the best the Luftwaffe had to offer. An excellent pilot then yes he was. having the highest score does not prove you are the best whatever that really means anyway. . . . .........
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| | #247 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada
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| I think this is one of those discussions where there will never be a right answer. there are other guys for consederation that are not on the list either. Veron woodward did well with p-40,s in the desert, you didn't mention any polish pilots, some who had sucesses in Poland and France with obselete airplanes, then there were the finns who did well in airplanes everyone considered obselete. not sure who of the list I would say was the best, maybe the German guy(can't think of his name right now) but he shot down 44 4 engine bombers |
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| | #248 |
| the old Sage ![]() Join Date: May 2004 Location: Platonic Sphere
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| Bernhart the chap you mention with 44 4-engine kills flying the 109G had his final score reduced to only 12/13. most likely it would be assumed the pilot(s) with the most action in the most theaters in war with the most years of service - most missions gained, not necessary to have the most kill claims
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| | #249 |
| Minister of Whoopass ![]() Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| Which is why Heinz Bar is my pick, with Ivan Kozhedub a close 2nd...
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| | #250 |
| Der Crewchief ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| This is what I stated in the other thread. Erich Hartmann was not the best there was and not the best technical fighter pilot, but he did end up the highest scoring ace of all times. Therefore for me he is the best of the best. However now having said that and this is what I have said in other posts in this thread. The best fighter pilot in my opinion and I agree with Les on this is Heinz Baer.
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| | #251 |
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| The Reason i Picked Mr. Galland was not Only did he Have a position inn the German Luftwaffe being a General meaning he could have jes sit down and let the Young Pup`s Have a good Go at It But He Didn`t Plus If a Few Inn the Higher Ups That was Running The German Show would Have Just Listened Too Gen. Galland when he spoke up about a New Tool That They had at the Ready Meaning The Me262 The Germans Might have Faired why why Differant than the way things turned out inn the End...... Inn Other Words Mr. galland Lead By Example and he also Showed and Tuaght His Fledgling`s Very Very we`ll . Erich Hartmann is still the highest scoring Ace of all Times with his 352 confirmed Kills |
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| | #252 |
| Der Crewchief ![]() Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany
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| It is very hard to read your posts. My spelling and stuff is not the best either but damn boy. Its no Inn but rather In. Also the grammar is horrid. I am not making fun of you or anything but it is just very hard to follow your posts. Is English your first language? If not that would explain it. By the way this site does have a spell checker.
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| | #253 | |
| Minister of Whoopass ![]() Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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| | #254 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007
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| Zebraa its now thought that apart from his early comrades, Galland had a disdain for the pilots who were trained after 43. These later pilots nicknamed him the 'Perfume factory'. He was considered to be a snivelling lackey of Gorings.
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| Minister of Whoopass ![]() Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Long Island Native in Mississippi
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