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View Poll Results: The Greatest Fighter Pilot of WWII.......... | |
Ivan Kozhedub, 62 Kills
|    | 101 | 7.90% | |
Alexandr Pokryshkin, 59 Kills
|    | 45 | 3.52% | |
Hans-Joachim Marseille, 158 Kills
|    | 179 | 14.00% | |
Erich Hartmann, 352 Kills
|    | 275 | 21.50% | |
Adolf Galland, 104 Kills
|    | 77 | 6.02% | |
Heinz Bar, 221 Kills
|    | 132 | 10.32% | |
Walter Nowotny, 259 Kills
| | 75 | 5.86% | |
Josef Priller, 101 Kills
| | 40 | 3.13% | |
Dick Bong, 40 Kills
| | 45 | 3.52% | |
David McCampbell, 34 Kills
| | 33 | 2.58% | |
Hiroyoshi Nishizawa, 87 Kills
| | 66 | 5.16% | |
Saburo Sakai, 64 Kills
| | 25 | 1.95% | |
Marmaduke St. John Pattle, 62 Kills
| | 96 | 7.51% | |
Johnnie Johnson, 38 Kills
| | 50 | 3.91% | |
Thomas McGuire, 38 Kills
| | 40 | 3.13% | 
03-03-2007, 09:01 PM
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#256 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | So a magical genie gives me three wishes. The first wish will be a round robin tournement involving any ace with over 15 kills. 10 major warbirds will be randomly selected and the aces will have to choose their weapon. They will have one month to get familiar with their aircraft practicing with a Miles laser system.
Top Gun for Dead Aces
The other two wishes will involve a hot brunette spinner with a lot of passion
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03-04-2007, 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus  Bullsh!t... | I take it the above is an acronym? Perhaps Back up ludricous lies etc? 
I have read a few negative accounts from a variety of sources that counter the popular image of Galland. This is the only one I could remmember at short notice.
'Luftwaffe Figher Aircraft in Profile' by Clas Sundin & Christer Bergstrom. Pg 76
"According to the version given by himself and his friends(notably Johannes Steinhoff and the US biographers Tolvier and Constable) after the war, Galland vehemently fought to defend his fighter pilots from Hitler and Goring. In reality, this applies only to Galland,s attitude towards his officer friends from the BOB days. towards the new fighter pilots of the "1943-1944 generation," the Generalmajor was rather harsh, commonly accusing them of cowerdice in the same manner as Goring, and furnishing them with unrealistic demands such as every Schwarm must "produce" at least one aerial victory on every combat mission. The young fighter pilots' worship of "their" Fighter General is mainly a myth originated by Galland and his exclusive top fighter pilots' clique after the war. In fact, many of the 1944 pilots despised the snobbish manners of Galland and found him fawning on the Nazi leadership. Among them, he was referred to as the "Perfume Factory." In April 1944, during one of Galland's inspection tours while flying this Fw190, he was intercepted by a group of Mustangs, who chased the "great fighter ace" half-way through Germany - this story was merrily spread through the whole Fighter Arm."
I have made no special study of Galland and am open to opinions to counter this argument. Perhaps I should have stated "it is now thought by some ....."
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Originally Posted by comiso90 So a magical genie gives me three wishes. The first wish will be a round robin tournement involving any ace with over 15 kills. 10 major warbirds will be randomly selected and the aces will have to choose their weapon. They will have one month to get familiar with their aircraft practicing with a Miles laser system.
| Mile system?
That system is crap! Used it on our helicopters when we flew the field. Too many false shootdowns and not accurate at all.
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03-08-2007, 04:02 AM
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#261 | | Der Crewchief
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__________________ US Army Blackhawk Crewchief 2000-2006 Classic ww2aircraft.net quotes: fly boy said: "isn't that the first jet bomber? becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles" "wait what ok who made the b-2 crash come on people that messed up its a b-2" "ah yes the mistel those things are so annoying is games and in real life" | |
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Originally Posted by ohka345 love nishizawa and sakai | Sakai, wasn't that the guy who flew hundreds of miles with a bulet hole in his head? I thought I saw something on Discovery about him.
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Originally Posted by DerAdlerIstGelandet ohka345 you need to downsize your siggy. For a siggy it is too large. | That's mean. I gotta start looking at these guys profiles before I pig pile. I feel bad now. Phew. Glad that's overwith.
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