 | The Greatest Fighter Pilot of WWII... Finalized....| Polls Discuss The Greatest Fighter Pilot of WWII... Finalized.... in the World War II - Aviation forums; Originally Posted by lesofprimus
And he accomplished all of that while being Goering's least favorite pilot as well... Only ... |
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Ivan Kozhedub, 62 Kills
|    | 101 | 7.90% | |
Alexandr Pokryshkin, 59 Kills
|    | 45 | 3.52% | |
Hans-Joachim Marseille, 158 Kills
|    | 179 | 14.00% | |
Erich Hartmann, 352 Kills
|    | 275 | 21.50% | |
Adolf Galland, 104 Kills
|    | 77 | 6.02% | |
Heinz Bar, 221 Kills
|    | 132 | 10.32% | |
Walter Nowotny, 259 Kills
| | 75 | 5.86% | |
Josef Priller, 101 Kills
| | 40 | 3.13% | |
Dick Bong, 40 Kills
| | 45 | 3.52% | |
David McCampbell, 34 Kills
| | 33 | 2.58% | |
Hiroyoshi Nishizawa, 87 Kills
| | 66 | 5.16% | |
Saburo Sakai, 64 Kills
| | 25 | 1.95% | |
Marmaduke St. John Pattle, 62 Kills
| | 96 | 7.51% | |
Johnnie Johnson, 38 Kills
| | 50 | 3.91% | |
Thomas McGuire, 38 Kills
| | 40 | 3.13% | 
03-20-2007, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus  And he accomplished all of that while being Goering's least favorite pilot as well... Only reason he never got the Diamonds... | Should've got a medal for that alone... Maybe an Allied one... | 
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03-20-2007, 08:55 AM
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03-20-2007, 04:34 PM
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04-23-2007, 09:15 AM
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04-23-2007, 03:14 PM
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04-23-2007, 03:19 PM
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#291 | | Minister of Whoopass
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04-25-2007, 01:23 PM
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| I'm going with Hartmann - he kept shooting down a/c till the end and mastered his aircraft to the fullest. He never lost a wingman either... All this while most fighting against superior numbers of enemy a/c.
He's the best if you ask me...
Marseille is a very close second.
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04-25-2007, 01:45 PM
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Country: | Engaged the enemy 800 times, shot down 352, lost no wingman, shot down 6 enemies at three different occations.... Erich Hartmann
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04-25-2007, 01:49 PM
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#294 | | the old Sage
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Country: | I still say forget some of these guys with easy kills, and look towards the night fighter chaps, probably overall the German and even the RAF were the best in the war flying at night closed in with bombers, the Mossies diving down and trying to escort RAF heavies and still trying to get behind/below German nfs to pop them.
The guys on the Ost front I have to hand it to them with heavy Bf 110G's and then later the Ju 88G-1 and G-6 against far slower ( in most cases if you do not count the B-25 ) and inferior Soviet types, flying extremely low and getting thumped by the ever present Soviet flak, flaps down and short bursts so you wouldn't collide with your prey ....... a totally unknown and crazy part of the war | |
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04-25-2007, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Erich I still say forget some of these guys with easy kills | Agreed. Superior Aircraft, Superior Tactics, Experienced Airmen. Even the Russians admitted that their pilots had a phobia of sorts (not all, certainly not the Guards Regiments) that was previlent.
Somebody made a really good point earlier in this thread about the sortie/kill ratio. There was a German pilot who had something like a 1 to 1 ratio. Very close. I believe he was knocked down after shooting down 70 Russians. Collieded with a Lagg or something like that.
Now that is really impressive. | 
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04-26-2007, 11:25 PM
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Country: | I did, just earlier. Would be interesting to know I have to say. Hartmann flew 1400 odd missions and engaged the enemy 800 times in those 1400+ flights...
Wonder what the top 20 would look like in kill ratios?
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05-17-2007, 09:42 PM
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I am surprised by a missing name here, Francis Gabreski, jug pilot, multiple ace in WW2 and jet ace in the Korean War, not many aces that did it in 2 wars. | |
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05-18-2007, 04:34 AM
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#298 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | Korea has no bearing on this Poll, and Gabreski was on a previous Poll and got zero votes....
There were just too many who were considered better than he...
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05-18-2007, 04:36 AM
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Country: | I think only 7 American pilots managed to become Aces in two wars, I could remember wrong though....
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05-20-2007, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lesofprimus Korea has no bearing on this Poll, and Gabreski was on a previous Poll and got zero votes....
There were just too many who were considered better than he... | SOry, I didn't know about the earlier poll, just started in here recently, and haven't seen everything. As for my statement on his Korean war record, that was included to show his skill. But, if he's already been voted down in prior polls, who am I to argue? | |
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