IAR.80C vs D.520C - Aircraft of World War II

Colin1 · 07-29-2009, 06:55 PM

IAR.80C :Name: Dewoitine D.520C
30ft 3in (9.22m) :Length: 28ft 3in (8.6m)
29ft 10in (9.09m) :Wingspan: 33ft 6in (10.2m)
12ft 6in (3.82m) :Height: 8ft 5in (2.57m)
1 :Crew: 1

4,850lbs (2,200Kgs) :Empty weight: 4,489lbs (2,036Kgs)
6,570lbs (2,980Kgs) :Loaded weight: 6,129lbs (2,780Kgs)

1 x IAR K14-1000A radial 1,025hp (764kW) :Powerplant: 1 x Hispano-Suiza 12Y-45 inline 930hp (690kW)
2 x 20mm MG151; 4 x 7.92mm FN mg :Armament: 1 x 20mm Hispano-Suiza HS.404; 4 x 7.5mm MAC 1934 mg

342mph (550kph) :Max speed: 332mph (535kph)
2,504ft/min (763m/min) :Rate of climb: 2,820ft/min (860m/min)
454 miles (730 Kms) :Range: 777 miles (1,250 Kms)
31,200ft (9,500m) :Service ceiling: 33,000ft (10,000m)

27.1lb/sq ft (132.35Kg/sq m) :Wing loading: 34.2lb/sq ft (167Kg/sq m)
183sq ft (17sq m) :Wing area: 172sq ft (15.97sq m)
0.136hp/lb (224W/Kg) :Power/mass: 0.156hp/lb (257W/Kg)

Micdrow · 07-29-2009, 07:05 PM

Ok I think I have the poll made Colin, check it out and see if it works for you

Colin1 · 07-29-2009, 07:07 PM

The duplicate thread's gone too - thanks Paul

Micdrow · 07-29-2009, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin1

The duplicate thread's gone too - thanks Paul

Actually I think Joe got rid of the duplicate

Colin1 · 07-29-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micdrow

Actually I think Joe got rid of the duplicate

lol whoever - thanks

Doughboy · 07-29-2009, 07:43 PM

Dewoitine D.520C for me because it was almost as good as the ME-109 and it was the best French Fighter.

P.S I also like the way the Dewoitine D.520C looks.

Vincenzo · 07-29-2009, 08:28 PM

imho 550 km/h was not actual speed of IAR 80C. the wing load for IAR is for near empty load, i've some doubt also for power/mass data.
so w/o chek data i think best fighters vs fighters dewoitine (it's also a older model of IAR), for ground attack i think best IAR

vikingBerserker · 07-29-2009, 09:02 PM

I'll got for the IAR because of the radial engine vs water cooled and larger fiew power.

I do find it interesting that Romania also used the D 520.

Colin1 · 07-30-2009, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincenzo

imho 550 km/h was not actual speed of IAR 80C. the wing load for IAR is for near empty load, i've some doubt also for power/mass data.
so w/o chek data i think best fighters vs fighters dewoitine (it's also a older model of IAR), for ground attack i think best IAR

Sorry Vincenzo
but do you have any sources to corroborate this? Something other than 'in your opinion' or some 'doubts'.
I was pretty damn careful in putting the spec face-off together

Vincenzo · 07-30-2009, 07:17 AM

Romania don't used Dewoitine.
My source came on looking with google everyone can works

http://www.aspera.ro/dl/benczeandreiiar80.pdf
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum good place for research on romanian in ww 2
http://webspace.webring.com/people/k...zum/IAR-80.htm

Colin1 · 07-30-2009, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vincenzo

Romania don't used Dewoitine.
My source came on looking with google everyone can works

Google? You might want to raise your bar slightly, Romania took delivery of around 100 D.520s

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-30-2009, 07:46 AM

I believe both aircraft are pretty evenly matched. Both having advantages over the other.

I find it hard to choose (also in part to me honestly not really knowing much about these two aircraft), but I think I will have to go with the IAR.80 because of its radial engine (and an illogical dislike for the D.520

).

Vincenzo · 07-30-2009, 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colin1

Google? You might want to raise your bar slightly, Romania took delivery of around 100 D.520s

need not stop a first results

EDIT sorry i confuse it with MB 151

2nd EDIT i've confuse but also dewoitine was not in service in romania

parsifal · 07-30-2009, 12:45 PM

after my unfortunate experiences with french cars Im going to vote for the IAR 80...if the French build aircraft like they built my old Peugot, not wonder they lost

DerAdlerIstGelandet · 07-30-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parsifal

after my unfortunate experiences with french cars Im going to vote for the IAR 80...if the French build aircraft like they built my old Peugot, not wonder they lost

My friend says the same thing about his as well!

07-29-2009, 07:05 PM	#2
Micdrow “Archive” Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,852	Ok I think I have the poll made Colin, check it out and see if it works for you __________________ "Valor does not mean Hero."

07-29-2009, 07:43 PM	#6
Doughboy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 885	Dewoitine D.520C for me because it was almost as good as the ME-109 and it was the best French Fighter. P.S I also like the way the Dewoitine D.520C looks. __________________ "This is the day which the lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it." Psalms 118:24

07-29-2009, 09:02 PM	#8
vikingBerserker Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,722	I'll got for the IAR because of the radial engine vs water cooled and larger fiew power. I do find it interesting that Romania also used the D 520. __________________ "Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it" "Those who dwell in the past, condemn the future"

07-30-2009, 07:17 AM	#10
Vincenzo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lazio Posts: 804	Romania don't used Dewoitine. My source came on looking with google everyone can works http://www.aspera.ro/dl/benczeandreiiar80.pdf http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum good place for research on romanian in ww 2 http://webspace.webring.com/people/k...zum/IAR-80.htm Last edited by Vincenzo; 07-30-2009 at 08:19 AM. Reason: add links

07-30-2009, 07:46 AM	#12
DerAdlerIstGelandet Der Crewchief Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ansbach, Germany Posts: 33,152	I believe both aircraft are pretty evenly matched. Both having advantages over the other. I find it hard to choose (also in part to me honestly not really knowing much about these two aircraft), but I think I will have to go with the IAR.80 because of its radial engine (and an illogical dislike for the D.520 ). __________________ fly boy:"isnt that the first jet bomber becasue i have flown one in a flight sim before and i know how it handles"[/I]

View Poll Results: Two early-war hopefuls pitched against one another
IAR.80C	19	51.35%
Dewoitine D.520C	18	48.65%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

07-29-2009, 07:07 PM	#3
Colin1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,759	The duplicate thread's gone too - thanks Paul

07-29-2009, 08:28 PM	#7
Vincenzo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lazio Posts: 804	imho 550 km/h was not actual speed of IAR 80C. the wing load for IAR is for near empty load, i've some doubt also for power/mass data. so w/o chek data i think best fighters vs fighters dewoitine (it's also a older model of IAR), for ground attack i think best IAR

07-30-2009, 12:45 PM	#14
parsifal Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,990	after my unfortunate experiences with french cars Im going to vote for the IAR 80...if the French build aircraft like they built my old Peugot, not wonder they lost __________________ Do not judge on abilities, but on choices

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