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04-21-2007, 10:32 AM
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Country:  | JAS 39 Gripen vs Eurofighter?
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04-21-2007, 10:34 AM
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| Eurofighter. Think of the F15 and F16 with the Eurofighter as the F15. | |
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04-21-2007, 10:38 AM
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Country:  | Eurofighter. Overall the better aircraft with a better package for air to air and almost as manoeuvrable.
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04-21-2007, 11:22 AM
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Country: | *Rock* me *Hard place* I put my money on Gripen....
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04-21-2007, 11:49 AM
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Country:  | Eurofighter in a pure air-to-air engagement. AESA radar/Meteor BVRAAM trumps Gripen in long range engagements.
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04-21-2007, 01:11 PM
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Country: | Gripen in a classic dogfight; Euro in a longer range missile engagement. | |
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Country:  | The Ef 2000 is faster, and more advanced avionics
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04-21-2007, 03:23 PM
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Country: | Yeah well IMO opinion a RAF pilot in an EF2000 would ass rape a Swwed pilot in a Saab anytime, no matter how good the Swwed Armed Forces are
the RAF is just that Damn good
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04-22-2007, 04:23 AM
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Country:  | Eurofighter. New generation of aircraft with better avionix and overall better performance and characteristics. JAS 39 is a great aircraft but the Eurofighter is the part of the next generation. All she is missing is the stealth capabitlities of the 22 and the 35.
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04-22-2007, 04:07 PM
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Couldn't touch them? I seriously doubt that. And against F-15C/E with AESA that's just a line of BS.
And yes I do believe the Gripen is qualified for all NATO missile loudouts (ie AIM-9/AIM-120). Don't get me wrong, Gripen is world class and I hope we never have to get on the wrong side of her. But she is not F-35 or Eurofighter caliber. She is also not as expensive. 
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04-22-2007, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt308 Couldn't touch them? I seriously doubt that. And against F-15C/E with AESA that's just a line of BS. | Thats an assumption that I wouldn't wish to make before I knew the facts. At the end of the day the F15 is an old airframe and the Grippen a very new one with all the latest gadgets. I doubt that the F15 couldn't touch it, thats a bit much but wouldn't be suprised if the F15 found the Grippen more than equal.
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Don't get me wrong, Gripen is world class and I hope we never have to get on the wrong side of her. But she is not F-35 or Eurofighter caliber. She is also not as expensive.
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04-22-2007, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Glider Thats an assumption that I wouldn't wish to make before I knew the facts. At the end of the day the F15 is an old airframe and the Grippen a very new one with all the latest gadgets. I doubt that the F15 couldn't touch it, thats a bit much but wouldn't be suprised if the F15 found the Grippen more than equal.
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Which gives her a good chance in the export market. | I was just quoting what was written fellas. I'll see if I can find the website again. It had something to do with their EWS system anyway. Early Warning System, right? 
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