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09-06-2005, 12:46 PM
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#1 | | Member
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| Me 109, Spitfire, Zero or Mustang Which plane would you want to use if you were in a dogfight? |
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09-06-2005, 12:47 PM
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| Sorry for some reason the spitfire part of the vote was cancelled. So its between Me109, Mustang or Zero/Zeke |
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09-06-2005, 01:45 PM
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Country: | I'm just going to tell myself that it's a later model p-51, so I have the bubble canopy. Anywho I'd go with American muscle.
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09-06-2005, 01:48 PM
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#4 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | the irony in that statement the 'stang was hardly a muscle plane and it had british muscle in it anyway
but i'd proberly take the -109, it's the best comprimise between the zero's handling and the 'stangs speed..........
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09-06-2005, 02:05 PM
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Country: | Bf109 for me. 
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09-06-2005, 02:58 PM
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Country: | 109 for me too (though I would of picked the Spitfire)
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09-06-2005, 04:04 PM
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Country: | Bf 109 for sure. Especially E-7 version
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09-06-2005, 06:21 PM
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Country: | 'stang for me.
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09-06-2005, 06:33 PM
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Country: | The Mustang has the advantage when entering the fight. And since I have no real clue about dogfighting, so am seriously green, I'd take the Mustang.
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09-06-2005, 06:50 PM
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Country: | Hands down: Bf 109 G-6/AS, G-10 or K-4.
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09-06-2005, 07:29 PM
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Country: | I marginally took the Mustang "D" over -109. The Zeke should even be in this survey, piece of crap!!! 
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09-06-2005, 09:04 PM
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Country: | Hmmm... I would have taken the Spitfire, but like it isn't there I'll take the P-51. |
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09-06-2005, 09:54 PM
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Country: | I say take the zeke out and put the spit in. Either way, I'd still take the 109.
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09-07-2005, 01:22 AM
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| In a classic WW2 style dogfight, a 109 for sure.
Reasons being;
*Better climb than almost any contemporary,
*Better acceleration than almost any contemporary
*Very high power to weight ratio
*Excellent armament set-up with the nose mounted Mg151/20 and the two Mg 131s (or maybe a Mk 103 in a later model  ),
*Good low speed handling because of the wing slats,
*Good in both the horizontal and vertical planes
The only advantages the Mustang had over the 109 were at high speed (ease of control, pseudo-laminar flow wing) and the Zero is wildly outclassed in terms of speed, climb, dive and roll. |
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09-07-2005, 07:01 AM
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| Quote: |
The only advantages the Mustang had over the 109 were at high speed (ease of control, pseudo-laminar flow wing)
| I thought the high wing-loading would give the 'schmitt the advantage there? Quote: |
and the Zero is wildly outclassed in terms of speed, climb, dive and roll.
| The Zeke is so bad??
Probably the 109F (does the BV155 count?  )
The P51 is more manouverable than the Gustav/Kurfurst surely? |
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