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06-13-2004, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by plan_D Motor veichles, it incorporates anything with an internal combustion engine. That's tanks as well. And for a good economy you needed a good transport system, and the most efficient ran on the internal combustion engine with good roads. That's why Hitler ordered the construction of the Auto-Bahns you hear so much about today, 700km worth to be precise. | The pic shows another use of this great road. |
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06-14-2004, 06:19 AM
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Country: | I've seen that pic before, the caption I saw was funnier. It was something like 'Another way to get to the target'.
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06-17-2004, 05:29 PM
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| Didn't the me-262's engines blow up if you went from "0% to 100%" to fast?
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06-17-2004, 05:51 PM
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Country: | it depended on the amount of thrust given through the turbines, this was at a distinct disadvnatage on a climbing turn. Several times Me 262's at night of Kommando Welter would have a "flame-out" where one engine would actually shut down.
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06-17-2004, 09:02 PM
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Country: | Flame-out not meaning the engine blew up, just shut down. It happens on aircraft these days as well.
Erich, on the test 262 the pilot had to brake a little on take off to get the tail up. Did they have to do that on all variants?
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06-18-2004, 01:56 PM
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#186 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | no as with the prototype it had tailweel landing gear, the pilot had to break a little to get the tail in the air, he didn't need to do that on all varients as the rest had noseweel landing gear.....................
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06-18-2004, 02:09 PM
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06-20-2004, 07:57 AM
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#188 | | Master of Ewes
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07-01-2004, 06:48 PM
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| thought I read that the engines did blow up . Oh well. Btw, when was the first me-262's ready? What date?
__________________ Who "gets it" when almost every aircraft you have heard about have a kill:death ratio of everything between 10:1 to 25:1?!
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07-02-2004, 12:16 AM
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| The Me-262 made its first jet-powered flight on July 18th, 1942. The first delivery was made in May of 1944 but it didn't enter regular squadron service until Sept. of that year.
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07-02-2004, 01:03 AM
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| Kinda. EkDo 262 had it flying in combat in April of '44. The first two kills were scored on a) a Mossie and b) a P-38, both on Photo-Recce missions.
How ironic, no matter how much you guys argue whats better, the Me-262 comes out on top!  |
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07-02-2004, 02:54 AM
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Country: | I read the EKdo 262 started armed flights in July 1944 and the first to be shot down by them were two F-5 Lightnings and a PR. Mosquito. And that unit became Kommando Nowotny.
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07-02-2004, 07:52 AM
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| Most of the posts seem to say "No", but I have to say "Yes". If it had been produced in sufficient numbers early enough. It was air superiority that dictated the tide of the war. The early years belonged to the Germans. Then, with huge numbers of American aircraft to tip the balance, it went to the Allies. Sufficient 262's would have swept the sky clear of bombers and fighters. German industry would have been unhampered by bombing. And with air superiority on the German side, can you say that the D-day landings would have succeeded?
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07-02-2004, 01:47 PM
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#194 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but that's it, they would have to have been produced earlier, which they weren't..........................
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07-03-2004, 02:39 AM
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Country: | And it seems in his eyes there were no British planes over the skies of Europe.
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