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11-05-2004, 11:41 PM
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#751 | | Senior Member
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| Nope, that's an air-raid siren...
Hey, would you like me to snap a pic in Fs2004 of the Mk.IX that you can use as your siggy?
If so, simply state location of where you would like the pic to feature... (Example would be your hometown...) | 
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11-05-2004, 11:46 PM
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#752 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | No, thanks. I like my current one. I appreciate the offer though.  | |
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11-06-2004, 11:55 AM
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#753 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | that screenhot's from CFS1 i believe?? i have that game and it's not bad but i'm hoping to get either CFS3 or IL2 when i get a computer upgrade...................
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11-06-2004, 03:08 PM
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Country:  | So any thoughts on the Stukas? 5000 ft seems low to me? 
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11-06-2004, 03:18 PM
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#755 | | Senior Member
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Country: | I had a few recordings of the sirens on the Stuka I would've posted, but I lost ALL my files yesterday.   This POS computer wouldnt start up so I had to reinstall windows.
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11-06-2004, 03:24 PM
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#756 | | Senior Member
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Country: | Heres one I just found:
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11-07-2004, 12:54 AM
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Country:  | I know that on the B-17, the Lancaster and those bombers that did have the tail gunners that their life expectancy was measured in days rather than weeks during the heavy German fighter attacks of 1942-1943. The Germans would approach the bomber from the tail hoping to kill it. Therefore the tail gunner was the most dangerous position. Many people died in the missions over Europe as tail gunners. It wasn't until 1944-1945 that the tail gunners position became a bit safer due to the destruction of a lot of German fighters on the ground and in the air by the Allies, as well as the introduction of better fighter escort planes for bomber crews. I rest my case for the tail gunner being the most dangerous position in a bomber in general. | |
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11-07-2004, 01:19 AM
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Country: | I agree with the idea of building replicas, as they allow the testing of different scenarios and answers to some questions. It is wondered how a Zero would have stood up to an early war Spitfire. I know the zeros were bad but both planes were highly maneovurable. It also allows us to really test the manevourability of some of these fighters and bombers to the limit. All we really know about the limitations of these fighters is what is published and even then in the WW2 publications I suspect that while the war was going on the performance of the fighters and bombers may have been understated to protect them. Also there are some German prototypes that were on the drawing board that may be worth making replicas of and we can then see and get an idea of how dangerous different bomber positions can be through the use of these replicas in realistic mission target ideas. | |
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11-07-2004, 06:26 AM
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#759 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | but the thing with a replica is you wont know if it perferms the same as the original, and the only way to find out is to test the original to the limit, don't get me wrong, i'm all for replicas, i'm just saying you should dtill fly an original if you still have it, there's no point in keeping it on the ground.....................
and whilst i see your point with the tail gunner, if a lanc went down he had the best chance of getting out mid air, and the most dangerous possistion on an american bomber would be the ball turret (that's why i said you had to be specific, you couldn't just say "which bomber" because not all had every gun posistion) because they had a habbit of simply falling out for no reason, even if they hadn't been hit, they were small, cramp and uncomfortable and you would have to stay there for hours on end..............
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11-07-2004, 04:11 PM
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Country:  | Only the early turrets randomly fell out, the problem was overcame later in the war.
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11-07-2004, 05:30 PM
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#761 | | Minister of Whoopass
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Country: | The most dangerous position from enemy aircraft fire was definatly the tail gunner (if the plane had a tail gunner)... He was the first thing a fighter pilot aimed for.....
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11-07-2004, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by the lancaster kicks ass that screenhot's from CFS1 i believe?? i have that game and it's not bad but i'm hoping to get either CFS3 or IL2 when i get a computer upgrade................... | Yeah, I'm also hoping to get CFS 3 soon... I think it would run quite well on my 3.0 GHz. I've just added a used GeForce 128 MB 3D video card I bought from one of my friend. Much better than the 64 MB (inboard) video card I had before. | |
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11-08-2004, 01:12 PM
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#763 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | we're getting an upgrade to a 2.6GHz, i'm currently running at 500MHz.............
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11-08-2004, 01:55 PM
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Country: | I have a new appreaciation for the bal gunners on the B-24 and B-17. After seeing a mock up of the ball you can feel the smallness and think of being stuck in that for hours at su-zero temps.
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11-08-2004, 03:09 PM
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Country: | lanc, I was thinking a bit, if you get IL2 Im not sure if its gonna work on your computer, It might not have sufficient graphics card and its only windows 98. Remember what happened the first time i tried installing IL2 on my old computer? And we had that updated several times
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