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02-15-2005, 05:09 PM
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#976 | | Master of Ewes
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Country:  | not sure we should do it by type, more by country.................
in a british bomber the worst posistion was the tail.............
an an american bomber the worst was the tial/ventral turret..............
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02-15-2005, 05:14 PM
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#977 | | Senior Member
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Country:  | Ok Lanc, thought i would ask. As for type I would ask it there any difference between being in say a B-24 or a B-326?
The records say yes the B-26 had the fewist lost, but they did lot different type of missions. 
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02-15-2005, 05:18 PM
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#978 | | Master of Ewes
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Country: | like opperating over normandy with no enemy opposition in the air, which always helps..........
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02-16-2005, 10:57 AM
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| statistics says the tail it the worst place to be.
Ow, and in IL-2 FB or PF, from what direction u mostly attack a group of bombers? i think almost everyone shoots from the back to take the whole group of bombers out.
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02-16-2005, 01:00 PM
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02-20-2005, 03:28 PM
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| Look the ball turret was the worst place to be those Me's got underneath you and shot 
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02-20-2005, 03:30 PM
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Country: | The same could be said for any position...
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02-20-2005, 03:33 PM
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| Yes but look for the vulnerability reports on a B17
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02-20-2005, 03:35 PM
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|  see what i mean
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02-20-2005, 03:36 PM
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02-20-2005, 03:37 PM
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| you would only get hit in the tail if you were directly behind because fighter rounds were high velocity
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02-20-2005, 03:46 PM
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Country: | We aint just talking about the B-17 here...at night, German Nachtjagers came up behind the bomber for an attack as a head on attack at night is pretty dumb, youve also gotta remember the Schrage Musik gun set up used by German nf's...
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02-20-2005, 03:48 PM
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| OH..... good point
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02-20-2005, 09:43 PM
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#989 | | "Shooter"
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Country: | According to the post war analysis done by the USAAF, the ball turret was one of the safer positions to be in. According to the records of the 303rd BG, here is the order of safest to least safe, based on % of men killed in that position:
Position % KIA
Pilot-Copilot 14.20
Radio 12.97
Engineer 12.37
Bombardier 12.06
Navigator 12.06
Tail Gunner 12.06
Ball Turret 11.76
Waist Gun 10.23
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02-20-2005, 10:17 PM
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| Thanks for that table Evan. I remembered reading somewhere before that the most dangerous position was the pilots position, its really hard to get people to believe that it wasnt the ball turret!
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