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05-18-2007, 04:35 PM
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from syscom3...Eight .50's beats six .50's in any fight!
| How many rounds of .50 would it take to take out another single engine aircraft as opposed to 20mm cannon or rockets?
My pick was split between Typhoon and Tempest because of their firepower.
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05-18-2007, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Njaco  How many rounds of .50 would it take to take out another single engine aircraft as opposed to 20mm cannon or rockets?
My pick was split between Typhoon and Tempest because of their firepower. | How about a 2-3 second burst if the range is right.
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05-19-2007, 01:48 AM
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| Here's a ground attack "Juggernaut." Two 1,000lb bombs, one 500lb bomb, ten HVAR rockets and eight .50 cal machine guns. 
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05-19-2007, 05:26 PM
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Country: | Anybody know what the payload for a fully equipped P-47 is as opposed to one for a Typhoon / Tempest?
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05-20-2007, 01:26 AM
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| That particular aircraft I posted above is "Glory Gal", a P-47N that operated off of LeShima in 1945. It has 2,500lbs of bombs and a 1,400lb load of rockets.
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Country: | After a lot of thinking I think that I'll go with the P-47. She could take a good payload, take good beating and still bring the pilot home.
Off topic though....my alltime favorite ground attack machine will always be the Douglas Skyraider. She could carry everything including the toilet and the kitchen sink...
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05-20-2007, 10:46 AM
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| I always thought it would be interesting to see the havoc that an A-26 could unleash with 16 .50's.
- 8 in the nose
- 6 in the wings
- 2 in the top turret locked forward
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Country: | Or the B-25 with its 14 .50's.... 8 in the nose, 4 in the gunpods on the side and 2 in the top turret. 
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05-22-2007, 11:11 AM
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Country: | Gotta go with the Jug. Hauls a big load, comparable to the B-25, plus 8 .50's and could take a beating that would have downed just about any other aircraft save MAYBE the Hellcat. Plus, IMHO, beautiful, in its own way:
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Originally Posted by Erich in what role ? ground attack-strafer, bomber killer ?
Fw 190A-8/R8 or how about JG 7 Me 262A-1a with the effective R4M rockets ? | I agree Erich, the FW 190A-8/R8 was tough, durable and hit with more firepower then any other plane in this survey. It was better vs bombers or ground attack then anything else. Period.
ME 262 was too fragile (and not dependable enough) and not able to take damage as well as the FW190A-8/R8. IMO
The A-8 perhaps was not the best "dog fighter" with the extra armor and cannons but it packed a punch that few if any could match. If you were to remove that extra armor and cannons it would of been a good dog fighter also. It could chew up ground targets and bombers like crazy....it could also take damage well to.
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Originally Posted by Dragontech64 Gotta go with the Jug. Hauls a big load, comparable to the B-25, plus 8 .50's and could take a beating that would have downed just about any other aircraft save MAYBE the Hellcat. Plus, IMHO, beautiful, in its own way: | Damn thats the ugliest P-47 paint job ever!
Looks like a target drone
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Originally Posted by comiso90 Damn thats the ugliest P-47 paint job ever!
Looks like a target drone | I agree....it is ugly and I like the P-47.
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